camdemille
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Post by camdemille on Feb 18, 2016 7:22:25 GMT 1
preferably another forum... a black friendly forum.. LSA seems to stand alone in that category
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Post by supermoonface on Feb 18, 2016 7:23:07 GMT 1
You should try TED - it's super interesting. That's where I learned about power literacy and fgm and all sorts
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Post by Maryseo7 on Feb 18, 2016 7:24:58 GMT 1
La323 you often make valid points but it sometimes sounds condescendant. I guess it's a wrong impression and just the internet but the way you talked to Oprah was not right. You're totally right regarding the inferiority complex most Black people worldwide experience and the way some Black men Berates Black women all the time (Taye Diggs*cough*), but Oprah just gave an insight on Ethiopian culture, from an Ethiopian point of view. How can you know more than her about her own culture Just by having Ethiopian friends? It's like me, as an African woman living in Europe, giving you insight on African American culture because I love it and it represents half of my cultural references though golden age hip hop, gospel, J Baldwin, L Hughes, Nina, Coltrane, Mingus, Zora Neale Hurston,Donny, Lauryn Hill (whatever people say she is the heir and embodiment of the Great Black culture first then it resonated with the world)) and telling you I know more about it than you do and not taking your explanation and precisions on some aspects into account. You said there are many ethnicities in Ethiopia,not only Habesha, but it seems to me that Habesha people represent the vast majority. Ethiopians are a pretty homogene oui group, it's a well know fact. Many say it's one of the reasons they're the sole African people who never got colonized. In other parts of Africa (like Central Africa where I'm from), people don't even consider them like Africans because they are mixed with other ethnicities and some people feel they consider themselves superior to most of us (no offense Oprah but you must know these ongoing Interafricans feuds lol). Anyway before this story, I did not even know who The Weeknd was. Can someone explain why he mispelled his stage name (Kidding)? Personally I Just want Lauryn to collaborate with Georgia Anne Muldrow (if you don't know her, check her out, especially Thoughtiverse Unmarred, to me she fills some of the void left by Lauryn. She collaborated with Badu, Mos Def. Madlib and she loves Lauryn). And by the way lsa is not that bad lol, many industry vets on it who often give great insight on the entertainment industry. Some is pure lies but many time the stories are too precise to be invented. One of the most interesting threads on it for a long time. Even Mountzion (always droppin knowledge ;-) was back. Peace I'm Ethiopian. I know my people. Projecting what ever generational abuse that occurred with Black people in the western world that destroyed Black families are not logical to project on Ethiopians, as the majority of us were raised by both of our parents, with our fathers in the picture. If you ask the average Ethiopian about their father, they will all tell you how great their father is. Ethiopian men typically are great fathers. You are projecting dogmas and behavior patterns based on Black men in the western world. Abel aka the Weeknd is not a descended of slaves. Interracial relationships are not accepted in Ethiopian culture, I know my people once again, 99% of Ethiopian men marry Ethiopian women. This is why you don't see Ethiopian women all over social media making statements about the dating choices of the Weeknd because dating outside is not a problem to us. Even on LSA when this was brought up by Black American women, the Ethiopian women on their reaffirmed countless times thats not an issue for us, because in the end when its time for marriage his bride will not be African American, Jamacian, white Canadian, Black Canadian, Latina, European, she will be Ethiopian. We know this. You are not Ethiopian yet you are projecting your American life, and relationships with Black men and their behavior on a man from Africa, who is Habesha, and who is only given an Black identification because of some white identification system. Most Ethiopians don't even view themselves as Black. Most of us come here from war torn countries, trying to escape war, only to projected into paradigms of Blackness, projected to stereotypes and associations which we have never experienced before. Your black experience, is not the black experience of every person of African descent. I went back to Ethiopia last summer, like I do every summer, and as I stated before interracial relationships is not a problem for us because we affirm who we are with our own faces. Like the little story goes that Ethiopian parents tell their children... when God made white people he put them in the oven and took them out too soon, but when he made Ethiopians he put them in and took them out in time, because he made them perfectly. There is no light vs dark skin, colorism, or putting non-black women on a pedestal. Whiteness is not the standard of our beauty! Our history does not start with white people, they come late into it! Just because some Black men in the western world decided to put white women on a pedestal instead of women from his own race is not the problem of Ethiopian men! Ethiopian men have nothing to do with that! But if you think you know more about my people than I do continue on... The average Ethiopian considers themselves to be Habesha not Black. Black is a identification projected on African people by white people, my people were never slaves, nor colonized, so why would I considered myself something based on the projection of outsiders? Africa is not some place where one perspective and identity lives. Most of us won't even marry "Black" people from different tribes than our own. ok, I'm going to try and lay this out succinctly because this is getting out of hand and I'm not doing this here. Save that shit for LSA 1.) White Supremacy is everywhere and effects everyone who cannot see it for what it is, whether you realize it or not. You being Ethiopian doesn't negate my stance and you really need to brush up on your comprehension skills. 2.) That's the way this world works and when you begin to understand what White Supremacy is, and how it effects populations globally you will begin to see things very differently. 3.) Black identification has been in use in Africa for thousands of years, it just didn't have a racist consequence attached to it. AGAIN, PLEASE LISTEN, it would MAKE SENSE TO GO BY YOUR ETHNICITY rather than your race in a country that is majority of the same race. THINK 4.) The Weeknd grew up in a very different environment; he did NOT grow up in Ethiopia, so his experiences dealing with self-esteem and self-worth and being Black in a majority WHITE country will be shaped DIFFERENTLY in many ways. However, the continent of Africa is PLAGUED with self-hatred. Furthermore, there are TONS of various ethnic groups in Ethiopia, there is no 'average' Ethiopian, smh lol. 5.) AGAIN I stated over and over again that this has nothing to do with him not marrying or dating non-ethiopian women, but has everything to do with his OWN self-hatred and his utilization of a culture that was partially pioneered by Black women he detests. He does NOT like Black women in ANY capacity.6.) The problem is you do not know how White Supremacy has infected Blacks/people of African descent AROUND the world 7.) I did not insinuate nor state that White was the standard of beauty smh lol damn.. 8.) I also did not insinuate or state that Africa was a monolith (now this is what we call projection in psychology), nor did I state or insinuate about there being one perspective or one type of identity. Stating your race doesn't remove your ethnicity smh 9.)I doubt he will marry someone of Ethiopian descent. 10.) Racism is a socially, economically and politically engineered phenomenon (which includes denigrative ideology backed by a system), it is associated with racial differences, these racial differences are exploited and used for oppression, as such THIS is what is a product of Whites or the projection of White insecurity, not race itself. Jesus Christ, you're inserting all sorts of ideas that weren't even the topic of the conversation. SMH... again save this kind of b.s. for LSA, we ain't doing this here. You can do what you want. I'm with Lauryn, she'll be fine. Please do not derail the thread anymore with this nonsense.
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Post by Weekday Night on Feb 18, 2016 10:06:26 GMT 1
if Weekend didn't grow up around black people no one should be offended/analytical if he don't prefer black women. it's nice to hear Ethiopians aint bought into the colorism the rest of us have. they seem unconcerned with color, based off Oprah's description of her homeland. love to see people ignore the popular imposed dogmas and calmly live their life, like "mind your business" sorry, but that doesn't fly when you try to capitalize off a culture that was pioneered by the same women you detest. NOOPPEE. You obviously don't know what colorism is. Are you Black? if not, I'm sure you do love to see the truth ignored lol. The only reason someone's own race isn't preferred is because they loathe themselves, this is internalized self-hatred 101. Racism isn't an issue in a land filled with Black (African) people, you step out of this and you get a rude awakening. However, the effects of White Supremacy, colonialism and the continued oppression of African people in Africa are indirectly tied to White Europeans to this day and manifests in a variety of ways. Goodnight. you sound like a nerd who indoctrinated yourself with so much pro-black ish you delude yourself the rest of earth must bow now to your indoctrination. fact is, world gonna keep spinning and your beliefs gonna water down in future generations til they're remembered for the reactionary doctrines they are. your beliefs won't prevail. world's moving in a dif direction. cling to the past all you want; world going to pass you by. Lauryn Hill aint singing duets with YOU. She singing them with the Weekend. they gonna be remembered while your views fade away into the past, history courses taught to mixed children lol Weekend is a Pop Star, not an exploiter of anything he has no claim to. You sound hurt that he likes white girls. If he grew up around them why would he be wrong to like them? You prefer he long for Mother Africa with a telescope on his roof every night crying under the stars that he's surrounded by white chicks who adore him? (go ahead, now go into a speech how they don't REALLY like him, but objectify him. lol save it... he aint going to change for you, nor will any guy who grows up surrounded by white chicks refuse them based off pro-black demagoguery. you hating, plain and simple. this forum seems to represent views of Africans outside of America, not merely the American paradigm. you don't sound too inclusive of your global melaninated community. maybe you feel American Privilege blinding you to others' p.o.v
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Jena
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Post by Jena on Feb 18, 2016 13:42:49 GMT 1
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"Weekday Night",
It's amazing how you've taken Oprah's statements about her country/culture and twisted them into being somehow aligned with that blob of buffoonery you just wrote.
Trying to pass off the effects of propaganda or an environment that promotes white supremacy as "he just grew up surrounded by white chicks" is absurd. Is that why women in Africa or Jamaica or even India bleach their skin? Did they just grow up surrounded by white chicks? Just because some people won't change doesn't mean the truth shouldn't be spoken or that the right path shouldn't be pursued. Had our ancestors in the US had that mentality, we'd still be in chains. Fighting against white supremacy and the negative effects it has on us will always be relevant. Having a bunch of mixed children won't end racism, it will just lighten the hue of it's victims.
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Post by nigelahmad on Feb 18, 2016 19:42:48 GMT 1
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Post by AinA on Feb 18, 2016 21:59:05 GMT 1
preferably another forum... a black friendly forum.. LSA seems to stand alone in that category lol, I see. LSA be cracking me up sometimes lol. But it's a lot of mess on that site lol. If I find any other sites I'll let you know.
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Post by AinA on Feb 18, 2016 21:59:38 GMT 1
You should try TED - it's super interesting. That's where I learned about power literacy and fgm and all sorts I love those TED conferences lol
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Post by Moo moo on Feb 18, 2016 22:00:12 GMT 1
I can't resist LA loves Weeknd, LA loves Weeknd
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Post by AinA on Feb 18, 2016 22:53:54 GMT 1
La323 you often make valid points but it sometimes sounds condescendant. I guess it's a wrong impression and just the internet but the way you talked to Oprah was not right. You're totally right regarding the inferiority complex most Black people worldwide experience and the way some Black men Berates Black women all the time (Taye Diggs*cough*), but Oprah just gave an insight on Ethiopian culture, from an Ethiopian point of view. How can you know more than her about her own culture Just by having Ethiopian friends? It's like me, as an African woman living in Europe, giving you insight on African American culture because I love it and it represents half of my cultural references though golden age hip hop, gospel, J Baldwin, L Hughes, Nina, Coltrane, Mingus, Zora Neale Hurston,Donny, Lauryn Hill (whatever people say she is the heir and embodiment of the Great Black culture first then it resonated with the world)) and telling you I know more about it than you do and not taking your explanation and precisions on some aspects into account. You said there are many ethnicities in Ethiopia,not only Habesha, but it seems to me that Habesha people represent the vast majority. Ethiopians are a pretty homogene oui group, it's a well know fact. Many say it's one of the reasons they're the sole African people who never got colonized. In other parts of Africa (like Central Africa where I'm from), people don't even consider them like Africans because they are mixed with other ethnicities and some people feel they consider themselves superior to most of us (no offense Oprah but you must know these ongoing Interafricans feuds lol). Anyway before this story, I did not even know who The Weeknd was. Can someone explain why he mispelled his stage name (Kidding)? Personally I Just want Lauryn to collaborate with Georgia Anne Muldrow (if you don't know her, check her out, especially Thoughtiverse Unmarred, to me she fills some of the void left by Lauryn. She collaborated with Badu, Mos Def. Madlib and she loves Lauryn). And by the way lsa is not that bad lol, many industry vets on it who often give great insight on the entertainment industry. Some is pure lies but many time the stories are too precise to be invented. One of the most interesting threads on it for a long time. Even Mountzion (always droppin knowledge ;-) was back. Peace ok, I'm going to try and lay this out succinctly because this is getting out of hand and I'm not doing this here. Save that shit for LSA 1.) White Supremacy is everywhere and effects everyone who cannot see it for what it is, whether you realize it or not. You being Ethiopian doesn't negate my stance and you really need to brush up on your comprehension skills. 2.) That's the way this world works and when you begin to understand what White Supremacy is, and how it effects populations globally you will begin to see things very differently. 3.) Black identification has been in use in Africa for thousands of years, it just didn't have a racist consequence attached to it. AGAIN, PLEASE LISTEN, it would MAKE SENSE TO GO BY YOUR ETHNICITY rather than your race in a country that is majority of the same race. THINK 4.) The Weeknd grew up in a very different environment; he did NOT grow up in Ethiopia, so his experiences dealing with self-esteem and self-worth and being Black in a majority WHITE country will be shaped DIFFERENTLY in many ways. However, the continent of Africa is PLAGUED with self-hatred. Furthermore, there are TONS of various ethnic groups in Ethiopia, there is no 'average' Ethiopian, smh lol. 5.) AGAIN I stated over and over again that this has nothing to do with him not marrying or dating non-ethiopian women, but has everything to do with his OWN self-hatred and his utilization of a culture that was partially pioneered by Black women he detests. He does NOT like Black women in ANY capacity.6.) The problem is you do not know how White Supremacy has infected Blacks/people of African descent AROUND the world 7.) I did not insinuate nor state that White was the standard of beauty smh lol damn.. 8.) I also did not insinuate or state that Africa was a monolith (now this is what we call projection in psychology), nor did I state or insinuate about there being one perspective or one type of identity. Stating your race doesn't remove your ethnicity smh 9.)I doubt he will marry someone of Ethiopian descent. 10.) Racism is a socially, economically and politically engineered phenomenon (which includes denigrative ideology backed by a system), it is associated with racial differences, these racial differences are exploited and used for oppression, as such THIS is what is a product of Whites or the projection of White insecurity, not race itself. Jesus Christ, you're inserting all sorts of ideas that weren't even the topic of the conversation. SMH... again save this kind of b.s. for LSA, we ain't doing this here. You can do what you want. I'm with Lauryn, she'll be fine. Please do not derail the thread anymore with this nonsense. I feel you. I wasn't trying to be condescending (I was very forceful with my comments and I am passionate, but it wasn't meant to be condescending), but I was extremely disgusted by her trying to shame African history in this country by utilizing our enslavement in this country as if it's something we should be ashamed of (when we should not); if it wasn't for these same people of African descent who were enslaved, she nor other Blacks who immigrate into this country wouldn't be here. I take GREAT offense to this type of tactic. It doesn't serve any of us well. I never stated that people in Ethiopia don't go by their ethnicity/tribe/clan etc. I stated that they don't deny being Black or of the same racial origin as others outside of Ethiopia and that it has been a connotation/association in use prior to coming to America or leaving Ethiopia, that is fact. The term itself means burnt face when translated in English, so they understood color in terms of race. I hate to say this, but I've met many other brothers and sisters in Africa who do not know their history and that's because the same things were done to them that was done to us in the diaspora, again I know it probably sounds bad, but it is the truth. I think as we discover more and learn more about our various histories and cultures as a people, I think we'll see things differently. There is a core cultural continuity throughout Africa and its diaspora though. If you get a chance, look up collective ancestral memory. It's quite fascinating. There are about 100 million Ethiopians, the ethnic group 'habesha' roughly accounts for about 33% of the population. I think what it is, is that this is the group that immigrates the most from Ethiopia to the West and is more well known. Well I mean, I have Ethiopian friends in Ethiopia and Ethiopian friends here in L.A. That's cold to not consider them Africans, here's what I will say on that...they are not mixed lol. Save for maybe a few populations with the Arabs, the majority are not mixed (more to this story as it relates to genetics). We (as African people) have a variety in phenotype. Ethiopia is the second oldest in lineage next to the San people in Africa. In fact, when you take a look at the various populations within Ethiopia, there is massive genetic variability and genetic diversity within and between. African people as a whole, we have the most variability and diversity, in a genetic sense. So we can produce all physical attributes known to mankind, makes sense? If she has information that can clarify or inform me about something within my culture/history because she's studied it, I would not take issue with that. It's not about knowing more, it's just about its totality. Where are you from in Central Africa? yes I love Georgia I do like LSA sometimes lol, but they be getting on my nerves with that African vs African American vs Caribbean b.s. it's ridiculous. People like to create troll threads. Lauryn isn't perfect, no one is, but I know she likes to be on her best with things and sometimes people take it as disrespectful because she ends up being late and she doesn't apologize or give an explanation sometimes lol (maybe she could employ this, I think it will help with ppl who may not understand). At this point though, if you know what it is and you purchase a ticket, you really can't be upset. It is what it is, people will either drop off because of it or they are like me and it's like, well I'll get there an hour later lol. Newcomers who think things will be different will say 'damn she was such and such late, but damn she killedt it! lol"
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Post by AinA on Feb 18, 2016 22:59:26 GMT 1
sorry, but that doesn't fly when you try to capitalize off a culture that was pioneered by the same women you detest. NOOPPEE. You obviously don't know what colorism is. Are you Black? if not, I'm sure you do love to see the truth ignored lol. The only reason someone's own race isn't preferred is because they loathe themselves, this is internalized self-hatred 101. Racism isn't an issue in a land filled with Black (African) people, you step out of this and you get a rude awakening. However, the effects of White Supremacy, colonialism and the continued oppression of African people in Africa are indirectly tied to White Europeans to this day and manifests in a variety of ways. Goodnight. you sound like a nerd who indoctrinated yourself with so much pro-black ish you delude yourself the rest of earth must bow now to your indoctrination. fact is, world gonna keep spinning and your beliefs gonna water down in future generations til they're remembered for the reactionary doctrines they are. your beliefs won't prevail. world's moving in a dif direction. cling to the past all you want; world going to pass you by. Lauryn Hill aint singing duets with YOU. She singing them with the Weekend. they gonna be remembered while your views fade away into the past, history courses taught to mixed children lol Weekend is a Pop Star, not an exploiter of anything he has no claim to. You sound hurt that he likes white girls. If he grew up around them why would he be wrong to like them? You prefer he long for Mother Africa with a telescope on his roof every night crying under the stars that he's surrounded by white chicks who adore him? (go ahead, now go into a speech how they don't REALLY like him, but objectify him. lol save it... he aint going to change for you, nor will any guy who grows up surrounded by white chicks refuse them based off pro-black demagoguery. you hating, plain and simple. this forum seems to represent views of Africans outside of America, not merely the American paradigm. you don't sound too inclusive of your global melaninated community. maybe you feel American Privilege blinding you to others' p.o.v I'm a nerd, but not brainwashed one. Again, I don't care that he likes non-Blacks and I am not asking him to change, that's his choice. I care that he exploits a culture that was created by the same women he detests, period. Nope, I am not inclusive of White identified Blacks. You will deal.
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Post by AinA on Feb 18, 2016 23:05:23 GMT 1
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"Weekday Night",
It's amazing how you've taken Oprah's statements about her country/culture and twisted them into being somehow aligned with that blob of buffoonery you just wrote.
Trying to pass off the effects of propaganda or an environment that promotes white supremacy as "he just grew up surrounded by white chicks" is absurd. Is that why women in Africa or Jamaica or even India bleach their skin? Did they just grow up surrounded by white chicks? Just because some people won't change doesn't mean the truth shouldn't be spoken or that the right path shouldn't be pursued. Had our ancestors in the US had that mentality, we'd still be in chains. Fighting against white supremacy and the negative effects it has on us will always be relevant. Having a bunch of mixed children won't end racism, it will just lighten the hue of it's victims. lol, he sure did didn't he? lol.. let them be in that little delusion of theirs. I call these kinds of people out because there are many Black girls/young women who unknowingly support artists who secretly have disdain for them, while at the same time using a culture created by these same women. Let the women these men prefer support him. What does it look like when you support men/women who have self-hatred and dislike the opposite sex of their same race, lol! NO... Now, I am not opposed to copping ish for free, so if you as a Black person like his crappy ass music, be my guest and pirate his shit lol. I only purchase music with meaning/quality, doesn't even have to be socially conscious. Lauryn will always get my money though lol. You don't like being Black or like Black women, that's fine, but don't think or expect that we will support you or your endeavors...it goes right back into the hands of the systematic oppression of African people. Self-hatred is something else isn't it?
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Post by AinA on Feb 18, 2016 23:07:01 GMT 1
Yes, they did it to her too. A mess. @oprah, I don't have any beef with you, but I think you took it a little too personally and things went sideways, your reply came off a little discourteous to me. I would've got at him if he was Nigerian, American etc. We/I appreciate the insight you bring to the board.
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Post by Oprah on Feb 18, 2016 23:44:52 GMT 1
La323 you often make valid points but it sometimes sounds condescendant. I guess it's a wrong impression and just the internet but the way you talked to Oprah was not right. You're totally right regarding the inferiority complex most Black people worldwide experience and the way some Black men Berates Black women all the time (Taye Diggs*cough*), but Oprah just gave an insight on Ethiopian culture, from an Ethiopian point of view. How can you know more than her about her own culture Just by having Ethiopian friends? It's like me, as an African woman living in Europe, giving you insight on African American culture because I love it and it represents half of my cultural references though golden age hip hop, gospel, J Baldwin, L Hughes, Nina, Coltrane, Mingus, Zora Neale Hurston,Donny, Lauryn Hill (whatever people say she is the heir and embodiment of the Great Black culture first then it resonated with the world)) and telling you I know more about it than you do and not taking your explanation and precisions on some aspects into account. You said there are many ethnicities in Ethiopia,not only Habesha, but it seems to me that Habesha people represent the vast majority. Ethiopians are a pretty homogene oui group, it's a well know fact. Many say it's one of the reasons they're the sole African people who never got colonized. In other parts of Africa (like Central Africa where I'm from), people don't even consider them like Africans because they are mixed with other ethnicities and some people feel they consider themselves superior to most of us (no offense Oprah but you must know these ongoing Interafricans feuds lol). Anyway before this story, I did not even know who The Weeknd was. Can someone explain why he mispelled his stage name (Kidding)? Personally I Just want Lauryn to collaborate with Georgia Anne Muldrow (if you don't know her, check her out, especially Thoughtiverse Unmarred, to me she fills some of the void left by Lauryn. She collaborated with Badu, Mos Def. Madlib and she loves Lauryn). And by the way lsa is not that bad lol, many industry vets on it who often give great insight on the entertainment industry. Some is pure lies but many time the stories are too precise to be invented. One of the most interesting threads on it for a long time. Even Mountzion (always droppin knowledge ;-) was back. Peace I feel you. I wasn't trying to be condescending (I was very forceful with my comments and I am passionate, but it wasn't meant to be condescending), but I was extremely disgusted by her trying to shame African history in this country by utilizing our enslavement in this country as if it's something we should be ashamed of (when we should not); if it wasn't for these same people of African descent who were enslaved, she nor other Blacks who immigrate into this country wouldn't be here. I take GREAT offense to this type of tactic. It doesn't serve any of us well. I never stated that people in Ethiopia don't go by their ethnicity/tribe/clan etc. I stated that they don't deny being Black or of the same racial origin as others outside of Ethiopia and that it has been a connotation/association in use prior to coming to America or leaving Ethiopia, that is fact. The term itself means burnt face when translated in English, so they understood color in terms of race. I hate to say this, but I've met many other brothers and sisters in Africa who do not know their history and that's because the same things were done to them that was done to us in the diaspora, again I know it probably sounds bad, but it is the truth. I think as we discover more and learn more about our various histories and cultures as a people, I think we'll see things differently. There is a core cultural continuity throughout Africa and its diaspora though. If you get a chance, look up collective ancestral memory. It's quite fascinating. There are about 100 million Ethiopians, the ethnic group 'habesha' roughly accounts for about 33% of the population. I think what it is, is that this is the group that immigrates the most from Ethiopia to the West and is more well known. Well I mean, I have Ethiopian friends in Ethiopia and Ethiopian friends here in L.A. That's cold to not consider them Africans, here's what I will say on that...they are not mixed lol. Save for maybe a few populations with the Arabs, the majority are not mixed (more to this story as it relates to genetics). We (as African people) have a variety in phenotype. Ethiopia is the second oldest in lineage next to the San people in Africa. In fact, when you take a look at the various populations within Ethiopia, there is massive genetic variability and genetic diversity within and between. African people as a whole, we have the most variability and diversity, in a genetic sense. So we can produce all physical attributes known to mankind, makes sense? If she has information that can clarify or inform me about something within my culture/history because she's studied it, I would not take issue with that. It's not about knowing more, it's just about its totality. Where are you from in Central Africa? yes I love Georgia I do like LSA sometimes lol, but they be getting on my nerves with that African vs African American vs Caribbean b.s. it's ridiculous. People like to create troll threads. Lauryn isn't perfect, no one is, but I know she likes to be on her best with things and sometimes people take it as disrespectful because she ends up being late and she doesn't apologize or give an explanation sometimes lol (maybe she could employ this, I think it will help with ppl who may not understand). At this point though, if you know what it is and you purchase a ticket, you really can't be upset. It is what it is, people will either drop off because of it or they are like me and it's like, well I'll get there an hour later lol. Newcomers who think things will be different will say 'damn she was such and such late, but damn she killedt it! lol" You still on here typing nothing but bullshit, thinking you know what you talking about but you really don't. Just because you read a couple pan-African books, don't make you inform on people in other parts of the world. Black American's don't even own their culture, so what are you talking about? And the same culture you are so gladly projecting borrows from European elements such as European instruments, and if you really wanted to indulge, their is very little elements in African American culture thats remotely African at all. The only Blacks in the western world who maintained any elements of African culture are those from Latin America. And let's not act like Blacks in the western world have not appropriated culture from East Africa with your obsession of that Red, Green, and yellow. And Abels music highly borrows from Ethiopian music. Once again, you are reinforcing your lack of knowledge. Habesha means mixed; how about you go an educate yourself, before spewing more of your nonsense? It's obvious you are not educated on this topic. And little do you know, Ethiopia means burnt face in Greek, which was also once the name for all of Africa, or more specifically the parts which were known to the outside world. In Ancient times, Ethiopia was the name given to the area of Sudan. The country of Ethiopia became referred to as such only around the 4th century, when Kush was attacked and parts of land was seized, it has nothing to do with any sort of Africans identifying as Black, or any of that other non-senses you are on here spewing. Nevertheless, even though Habesha's are mixed, other populations such as the Oromo, Afar ect do not consider themselves to be Black! I do not know how many times i have to tell you this! Stop projecting your western culture on people who have never been projected to it. Stop projecting your white man logic, and his classifications on a people who have never been classified under it. The only grouping that Ethiopians referred to themselves under with other Africans is under the term "African," not Black! Even though this is a comedic video, it brings up an actual point with the guy saying I'm not Black, I'm Habesha! And for the last time I will say Ethiopians do not view themselves as Black. If you find any that do its a minority, and largely do to living in the west! Also Ethiopians have ancient admixture from Western Asia, so what ever nonsense you are spewing about genetics you are also wrong about that, once again. It's always the ones, trying to talk down on somebody not knowing that the hell they are talking about. You cannot educate an Ethiopian about Ethiopians or Ethiopia when I'm an Ethiopian my damn self. Abel got you all in your feelings... and for what? Its not like he was ever gonna marry some western Black woman anyway! Go read the study: Not black, but Habasha: Ethiopian and Eritrean immigrants in American society by Shelly Habecker, if you really wanna know how we classify ourselves! We are Habesha, we are Africans... We are not Black! Project your white man classification system of race elsewhere! supermoonface I said I wasn't gonna be back in this thread, but the ignorance that is showing its head, and really starting to show how certain people are depreciating the human gene pool, and the IQ of specific races with their ignorance, and inferiority complex. However, I usually know what is happening with Ms. Hill and her camp long before most things happen, so not being on here won't keep me uninformed.
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Post by true2u on Feb 19, 2016 0:09:54 GMT 1
Headed to the finish line it O and 323 It's a photo finish the little guy seem to jump ahead at the finish line. Deadheat? ? or tie.
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