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Post by supermoonface on Feb 27, 2015 11:01:28 GMT 1
In the sphere of internal emotional struggle this song has the same effect that Nina Simones's Strange Fruit had on me in terms of the utter wickedness perpetrated during the period of overt enslavement of black people. That song made me so uncomfortable I have still to this day never been able to listen through to the end. As an aside, tge lyrics of Ms Hill's new material, consumerism, black rage etc has changed focus from the ambiguous universal themes presented in a lot of her unreleased tracks back to lyrics almost entirely focused on current, hopefully transient negative cultural practices. It is most definitely music for the now.
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Post by supermoonface on Feb 27, 2015 10:43:37 GMT 1
Think you may be pretty close to the mark. I struggled with the line "and I'd do it all again because for you I live". It' made me uncomfortable that the story would end with this mindset if relating to an abusive relationship. The only way I could rationalise that line without it been so sad is if it referred to her kids or perhaps her relationship with God. No person should live for another in exclusion to their own self. This is obviously an experience many people go through which Ms Hill has chosen to share which is why for me it merits discussion. That line actually stirs outrage in me. Maybe am going too deep but could the song be designed to cause outrage and by engaging people and allowing them to see in themselves how self destructive living for another person in this manner is? It's very brave to beat your feelings from a time when you yourself know later that it was not your finest hour.
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Post by supermoonface on Feb 26, 2015 17:53:55 GMT 1
All possible but like many of her lyrics the meaning is somewhat ambiguous. Loose myself was released on the soundtrack to surfs up afterall. There is a more interesting point here for me. I think lyrics that can be interpreted in different ways by different people at different times in their lives seem to stand the test of time, particularly so when they are free from transitory references. The more references to transitory cultural phenomenon that are present in stories the more knowledge is required to understand the meaning. Remove the references and you are left with universal themes. Eg "roll whichever Benz to..." From eveything is everything - in a few hundred years very few people may know that a Benz was a car or even what a car was and some of the meanung of this lyric is lost. Contrast to the lyrics of I had to walk which contains no references whose meanung can be lost and you get the idea. For me the lyrics of loose myself relate to a very dear friend whoose life I had to leave for some years. We are now stronger friends than ever and that break saved our friendship while we both grew. "I used to do it for the love a long time ago" puts me in the mind that this sing could we'll be about music as well as other darker things. I think it's ultimately a song about relationships and self love.
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Post by supermoonface on Feb 26, 2015 15:30:10 GMT 1
Or maybe it's a song for her kids
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Post by supermoonface on Feb 26, 2015 15:29:46 GMT 1
Maybe the song is about tge music industry and not a man
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Post by supermoonface on Feb 17, 2015 8:37:53 GMT 1
Love x
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Post by supermoonface on Feb 8, 2015 10:17:12 GMT 1
The world is a hustle
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 23, 2015 9:28:56 GMT 1
Mine too
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 21, 2015 20:30:29 GMT 1
Your not too big on back and forth conversation are you ? I am not religious in any way nor would I consider myself an academic - am just an insanely curious one. take care !
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 21, 2015 20:17:56 GMT 1
Are we making the same point ? I am a little confused. The quotes you provide seem to support the idea of following God through your heart and to keep an eye out for those dodgy men waving them pamphlets with all those funny looking squiggles all over em
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 21, 2015 20:14:10 GMT 1
Ooh you are encouragable !
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 21, 2015 17:40:24 GMT 1
I always feel that God does God's best work when acting as a self internalised ego reduction / gratitude amplification system. Anything beyond that seems like a hijacking. Do you have any other interests except evangelism? We are already waaaaaay off topic so might as well have a chat that may result in the possibility of a more positive exchange
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 20, 2015 20:38:01 GMT 1
Its irrelevant to me if the wisdom in the bible is the word of god or the not. It's still wisdom. History books are written by the victors of physical wars. Religious texts are written by the victors of A different kind of war. Am pretty sure Jesus was a philosopher.
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 20, 2015 20:31:13 GMT 1
I don't think religious texts including The Bible are foolish. I think they contain immeasurable knowledge. I even have no problem with most literal contradictions as advise is usually context specific. I do think any religious text has been edited for a variety of reasons throughout the years many times. I also think a piece of writing written in an ancient language thousands of years ago is just as succeptable to the loss of fidelity as any other piece of writing. People up in the higher echelons of religion debate at length the meaning of passages and individual words before agreeing on a public version.
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Post by supermoonface on Jan 20, 2015 10:23:50 GMT 1
I have major fidelity issues with any religious script. Just based on the fact that the literacy rate in the general population was extremely low for most of the existence Of these texts should be a cause for concern.
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