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Post by y'all on Feb 21, 2014 22:13:32 GMT 1
She's Christian, pro-Black and a LOT deeper than y'all even know, stuff I'm sure many of you ain't never read lol. Smh @ all these ppl who don't understand the history behind why hip hop was created. I can guarantee you her next lp will more than likely focus on Black issues and unapologetically so because that's what it was designed to do. Wow Anon! You know so much about what other people 'don't even know, ain't never read, too deep for y'all, y'all ain't ready" yada yada! So enlightening! Please tell us more about what we don't know. It's riveting!
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Post by Anon on Feb 22, 2014 5:31:18 GMT 1
She's Christian, pro-Black and a LOT deeper than y'all even know, stuff I'm sure many of you ain't never read lol. Smh @ all these ppl who don't understand the history behind why hip hop was created. I can guarantee you her next lp will more than likely focus on Black issues and unapologetically so because that's what it was designed to do. Wow Anon! You know so much about what other people 'don't even know, ain't never read, too deep for y'all, y'all ain't ready" yada yada! So enlightening! Please tell us more about what we don't know. It's riveting! The info is in her music I tend to find that most people truly don't understand her work, they only look at the obvious stuff, but the stuff that goes deeper than ppl imagine, they skip over, ignore or don't understand because she's supremely well read and many aren't, at least not about some of the things she's talking about. That book ppl kept trynna figure out she was walking with is a book not of average consumption, neither is Frantz Fanon (which she studied as a teenager), Dr. Francis Welsing (which she studied earlier in her life as well) and a WHOLE host of other authors I could name and the only reason I know is because I read the same stuff and know the references in her music/ web posts. She's also read Neely Fuller Jr and perhaps Marimba Ani That book ppl were trying to figure out is by Herbert Marcuse: Eros and Civilization Consumerism was based upon this:He [Marcuse] argued that capitalism and industrialization pushed laborers so hard that they began to see themselves as extensions of the objects they were producing. At the beginning of One-Dimensional Man Marcuse writes, "The people recognize themselves in their commodities; they find their soul in their automobile, hi-fi set, split-level home, kitchen equipment,” meaning that under capitalism (in a consumer society) humans become extensions of the commodities that they buy, thus making commodities extensions of people's minds and bodies. Affluent mass technological societies, it argued, were totally controlled and manipulated.
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Post by Sigmund Fraud on Feb 22, 2014 17:08:56 GMT 1
"Dr. Francis Welsing (which she studied earlier in her life as well)"
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how you know she studied this; especially knowing WHEN i.e. (earlier in her life)?how do we know you aint just attaching your presumptions and high regard for Ms. Hill to a woman who may not even have delved into Dr. Welsing? Maybe YOU studied Dr. Welsing and revere Ms. Hill so much it'd be catastrophic to your idol worshiping psyche to imagine Ms. Hill wasn't into Dr. Welsing the way you presume. You speak as if you project YOUR opinions on to your hero (Ms. Hill) as if she were the champion mascot for your own personal value system. As if you were Santa Claus and Ms. Hill were the flying 8 reindeer, famously transporting your beliefs to every ear.
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Post by Anon on Feb 24, 2014 2:44:14 GMT 1
Did you not read what I posted? I said the references are in her music and if you're not familiar with the subject matter, you will have NO CLUE, SMH. I don't need any validation from LH, but I do love her work and honesty. I know she's read Dr. Welsing because I know the references lol. It doesn't hurt that Talib Kewli also mentions it in his Ms. Hill song If she was studying Frantz Fanon as a teenager, you can best believe she was studying Dr. Frances Welsing around this time. There's a video of Lauryn on Youtube; it may be posted here on this board, I'm not sure, where's she's debating/giving her two cents on the state of Blacks; she was just a teenager here It's called Lauryn Hill and Jeru She was around 5% nation ppl and Nation of Islam ppl, and in terms of some of their principles and not so much their religious aspect, she just agreed with some things dealing with Blackness and Black affairs, but she had a lot of influences and works that has shaped who she is. Rastafarianism and Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity has played a big role as well. She's not into religion, but she is certainly on the uncut truth of the bible and she is Christian. She knows the deal where it concerns the truth and has for quite a while. In any case, Interesting you mention projection and have Sigmund labelled a fraud LMAO, although some of his stuff is questionable, I do agree with the id, ego, superego, unconscious, sub conscious, projection, reaction formation etc...
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Post by Sicmon Fard on Feb 26, 2014 3:47:28 GMT 1
Did you not read what I posted? I said the references are in her music and if you're not familiar with the subject matter, you will have NO CLUE, SMH. I don't need any validation from LH, but I do love her work and honesty. I know she's read Dr. Welsing because I know the references lol. It doesn't hurt that Talib Kewli also mentions it in his Ms. Hill song If she was studying Frantz Fanon as a teenager, you can best believe she was studying Dr. Frances Welsing around this time. There's a video of Lauryn on Youtube; it may be posted here on this board, I'm not sure, where's she's debating/giving her two cents on the state of Blacks; she was just a teenager here It's called Lauryn Hill and Jeru She was around 5% nation ppl and Nation of Islam ppl, and in terms of some of their principles and not so much their religious aspect, she just agreed with some things dealing with Blackness and Black affairs, but she had a lot of influences and works that has shaped who she is. Rastafarianism and Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity has played a big role as well. She's not into religion, but she is certainly on the uncut truth of the bible and she is Christian. She knows the deal where it concerns the truth and has for quite a while. In any case, Interesting you mention projection and have Sigmund labelled a fraud LMAO, although some of his stuff is questionable, I do agree with the id, ego, superego, unconscious, sub conscious, projection, reaction formation etc...
Oh, ok, the Talib Kweli song; I suspect he was talking about his own past, not specifically Lauryn's. It sounded like one of them generic "our type of mind set & generation of Black intellectuals read Dr. Cress" more than "me and Ms. Hill were chillin, reading Dr. Cress together" descriptions but I can see where you'd have gauged from that song that she read Welsing back in the day. My bad. I never caught any references in Lauryn's music to Dr. Cress tho. I think people frequently study Fanon and skip Welsing. {not that Welsing aint dope, but she is less popular than Fanon} I also believe because of the Fanon documentary she narrated, she was for promotional reasons saying THAT's what she was reading in jail, and probly WAS doing some catch-up on it so she'd be polished on the topic; but what references have you noticed of Fanon in Ms. Hill's music? What artists do a lot is reference scholars they might not have studied tho; so, like if they quote someone, or reference someone, their audience is left fooled thinking that artist is more familiar/aligned with that scholar than the artist is. E.g. if I was a rapper and I obscurely referenced a quote i seen in an instagram picture somewhere, the audience would misinterpret my reference as my awareness of/allegiance to that scholar's catalog; meanwhile it's just a quote I was impressed by so put it in a song cuz it rhymed with my train of thought at the time of songwriting. Understand? i.e. if you heard Ms. Hill reference scholarship YOU’VE studied, it might not equate to Ms. Hill being as interested in/influenced or impressed by that scholar as you are. She may have come up with the concept on her own, independently of that scholar. Observations aren’t always transferred second-hand. Often great minds will observe the same ish; and you might be seeing Ms. Hill’s independent concept as being influenced by someone similar, which may be coincidental. I saw that Jeru debate; she was adorable in that. From that it was obvious she wasn’t following anyone’s views but her own. So if she had her own mind back then, why would one expect she’d be influenced by another now? I think the book Eros and Civilization she was holding in her photograph was an ancillary promotion of her song Neurotic Society. E.g. she may have been reading it, true; but I suspect the reason she publicized it was to buttress her timely song. Ms. Hill is smarter than most people so she has to respect all the various cults/creeds that crop up in this world, but we shouldn’t actually assume she’s repping any of them. Especially Christianity & Rastafari. Marrying a Rasta doesn’t transform you into one; you just respect them more because that’s now your family culture; & quoting the Bible doesn’t make someone Christian; e.g. Farrakhan quotes the Bible and he’s not Christian. The Bible’s just like any other book artists reference in their music and fans misinterpret the artist’s views to be our own. Ms. Hill might not be on the same track as you. Fans always believe this about their idols but it never winds up being true. Artists never want to disqualify our adoration of them so rarely refute certain fans’ generic mores; because there’s more common ground than not, so why alienate one’s audience on a technicality? But I used to think the same way as you and realized just because certain of our thoughts corresponded, it didn’t mean we shared identical ideals. You may be idealizing her by identifying with her, but you’s may be more different than you, as a loving fan, can accept. She may be more like you in your mind than in reality. I think Ms. Hill needs to write a book because her prose is impressive and she shouldn’t sleep on that talent.
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Post by Anon on Feb 26, 2014 11:27:13 GMT 1
Did you not read what I posted? I said the references are in her music and if you're not familiar with the subject matter, you will have NO CLUE, SMH. I don't need any validation from LH, but I do love her work and honesty. I know she's read Dr. Welsing because I know the references lol. It doesn't hurt that Talib Kewli also mentions it in his Ms. Hill song If she was studying Frantz Fanon as a teenager, you can best believe she was studying Dr. Frances Welsing around this time. There's a video of Lauryn on Youtube; it may be posted here on this board, I'm not sure, where's she's debating/giving her two cents on the state of Blacks; she was just a teenager here It's called Lauryn Hill and Jeru She was around 5% nation ppl and Nation of Islam ppl, and in terms of some of their principles and not so much their religious aspect, she just agreed with some things dealing with Blackness and Black affairs, but she had a lot of influences and works that has shaped who she is. Rastafarianism and Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity has played a big role as well. She's not into religion, but she is certainly on the uncut truth of the bible and she is Christian. She knows the deal where it concerns the truth and has for quite a while. In any case, Interesting you mention projection and have Sigmund labelled a fraud LMAO, although some of his stuff is questionable, I do agree with the id, ego, superego, unconscious, sub conscious, projection, reaction formation etc...
Oh, ok, the Talib Kweli song; I suspect he was talking about his own past, not specifically Lauryn's. It sounded like one of them generic "our type of mind set & generation of Black intellectuals read Dr. Cress" more than "me and Ms. Hill were chillin, reading Dr. Cress together" descriptions but I can see where you'd have gauged from that song that she read Welsing back in the day. My bad. I never caught any references in Lauryn's music to Dr. Cress tho. I think people frequently study Fanon and skip Welsing. {not that Welsing aint dope, but she is less popular than Fanon} I also believe because of the Fanon documentary she narrated, she was for promotional reasons saying THAT's what she was reading in jail, and probly WAS doing some catch-up on it so she'd be polished on the topic; but what references have you noticed of Fanon in Ms. Hill's music? What artists do a lot is reference scholars they might not have studied tho; so, like if they quote someone, or reference someone, their audience is left fooled thinking that artist is more familiar/aligned with that scholar than the artist is. E.g. if I was a rapper and I obscurely referenced a quote i seen in an instagram picture somewhere, the audience would misinterpret my reference as my awareness of/allegiance to that scholar's catalog; meanwhile it's just a quote I was impressed by so put it in a song cuz it rhymed with my train of thought at the time of songwriting. Understand? i.e. if you heard Ms. Hill reference scholarship YOU’VE studied, it might not equate to Ms. Hill being as interested in/influenced or impressed by that scholar as you are. She may have come up with the concept on her own, independently of that scholar. Observations aren’t always transferred second-hand. Often great minds will observe the same ish; and you might be seeing Ms. Hill’s independent concept as being influenced by someone similar, which may be coincidental. I saw that Jeru debate; she was adorable in that. From that it was obvious she wasn’t following anyone’s views but her own. So if she had her own mind back then, why would one expect she’d be influenced by another now? I think the book Eros and Civilization she was holding in her photograph was an ancillary promotion of her song Neurotic Society. E.g. she may have been reading it, true; but I suspect the reason she publicized it was to buttress her timely song. Ms. Hill is smarter than most people so she has to respect all the various cults/creeds that crop up in this world, but we shouldn’t actually assume she’s repping any of them. Especially Christianity & Rastafari. Marrying a Rasta doesn’t transform you into one; you just respect them more because that’s now your family culture; & quoting the Bible doesn’t make someone Christian; e.g. Farrakhan quotes the Bible and he’s not Christian. The Bible’s just like any other book artists reference in their music and fans misinterpret the artist’s views to be our own. Ms. Hill might not be on the same track as you. Fans always believe this about their idols but it never winds up being true. Artists never want to disqualify our adoration of them so rarely refute certain fans’ generic mores; because there’s more common ground than not, so why alienate one’s audience on a technicality? But I used to think the same way as you and realized just because certain of our thoughts corresponded, it didn’t mean we shared identical ideals. You may be idealizing her by identifying with her, but you’s may be more different than you, as a loving fan, can accept. She may be more like you in your mind than in reality. I think Ms. Hill needs to write a book because her prose is impressive and she shouldn’t sleep on that talent. This whole post is a mess. Lauryn is familiar with Welsing and the others I've mentioned, end of discussion. I have no time to argue with ppl who don't read (especially the material I've pointed out) and who certainly do NOT understand her work. I have no idols, I just know what I'm talking about. You must not be Black and if you are, know nothing about American Black History
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Post by Siggy F on Feb 26, 2014 23:06:44 GMT 1
Oh, ok, the Talib Kweli song; I suspect he was talking about his own past, not specifically Lauryn's. It sounded like one of them generic "our type of mind set & generation of Black intellectuals read Dr. Cress" more than "me and Ms. Hill were chillin, reading Dr. Cress together" descriptions but I can see where you'd have gauged from that song that she read Welsing back in the day. My bad. I never caught any references in Lauryn's music to Dr. Cress tho. I think people frequently study Fanon and skip Welsing. {not that Welsing aint dope, but she is less popular than Fanon} I also believe because of the Fanon documentary she narrated, she was for promotional reasons saying THAT's what she was reading in jail, and probly WAS doing some catch-up on it so she'd be polished on the topic; but what references have you noticed of Fanon in Ms. Hill's music? What artists do a lot is reference scholars they might not have studied tho; so, like if they quote someone, or reference someone, their audience is left fooled thinking that artist is more familiar/aligned with that scholar than the artist is. E.g. if I was a rapper and I obscurely referenced a quote i seen in an instagram picture somewhere, the audience would misinterpret my reference as my awareness of/allegiance to that scholar's catalog; meanwhile it's just a quote I was impressed by so put it in a song cuz it rhymed with my train of thought at the time of songwriting. Understand? i.e. if you heard Ms. Hill reference scholarship YOU’VE studied, it might not equate to Ms. Hill being as interested in/influenced or impressed by that scholar as you are. She may have come up with the concept on her own, independently of that scholar. Observations aren’t always transferred second-hand. Often great minds will observe the same ish; and you might be seeing Ms. Hill’s independent concept as being influenced by someone similar, which may be coincidental. I saw that Jeru debate; she was adorable in that. From that it was obvious she wasn’t following anyone’s views but her own. So if she had her own mind back then, why would one expect she’d be influenced by another now? I think the book Eros and Civilization she was holding in her photograph was an ancillary promotion of her song Neurotic Society. E.g. she may have been reading it, true; but I suspect the reason she publicized it was to buttress her timely song. Ms. Hill is smarter than most people so she has to respect all the various cults/creeds that crop up in this world, but we shouldn’t actually assume she’s repping any of them. Especially Christianity & Rastafari. Marrying a Rasta doesn’t transform you into one; you just respect them more because that’s now your family culture; & quoting the Bible doesn’t make someone Christian; e.g. Farrakhan quotes the Bible and he’s not Christian. The Bible’s just like any other book artists reference in their music and fans misinterpret the artist’s views to be our own. Ms. Hill might not be on the same track as you. Fans always believe this about their idols but it never winds up being true. Artists never want to disqualify our adoration of them so rarely refute certain fans’ generic mores; because there’s more common ground than not, so why alienate one’s audience on a technicality? But I used to think the same way as you and realized just because certain of our thoughts corresponded, it didn’t mean we shared identical ideals. You may be idealizing her by identifying with her, but you’s may be more different than you, as a loving fan, can accept. She may be more like you in your mind than in reality. I think Ms. Hill needs to write a book because her prose is impressive and she shouldn’t sleep on that talent. This whole post is a mess. Lauryn is familiar with Welsing and the others I've mentioned, end of discussion. I have no time to argue with ppl who don't read (especially the material I've pointed out) and who certainly do NOT understand her work. I have no idols, I just know what I'm talking about. You must not be Black and if you are, know nothing about American Black History you know less than you proclaim. but i won't step on your fantasy. carry on
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Post by Anon on Feb 27, 2014 1:15:12 GMT 1
This whole post is a mess. Lauryn is familiar with Welsing and the others I've mentioned, end of discussion. I have no time to argue with ppl who don't read (especially the material I've pointed out) and who certainly do NOT understand her work. I have no idols, I just know what I'm talking about. You must not be Black and if you are, know nothing about American Black History you know less than you proclaim. but i won't step on your fantasy. carry on Sorry, but it's you who doesn't know. You are the one with the fantasy not me and you can't handle it. When her lp drops refer back to this post Her new lp will be something someone who is non Black or brainwashed Black will not be able to handle, period. I know what I know and you know nothing about what you think you know. You know very little about Lauryn to suggest that she'd EVER reference something she's never studied, that's NOT how she rolls, real talk...like I said, you don't know what you're talking about, I do. The mere fact that you suggest she isn't Christian...SMH tells me you know nothing about her work, her past/history or Black people in general. You don't reference things you don't believe in; this tells me you don't understand her work, because she doesn't reference things that she doesn't apply to her life Farrakhan has a different take on things. "To be a good Muslim is to be a good Christian, to be a good Christian, is to be a good Muslim." you can't use him as example really because he's too convoluted. Lauryn speaks NOTHING but the bible and salvation through Christ, that is Christianity, a WALK not a RELIGION Scroll to 1:51:00 You don't reference things you don't believe in; this tells me you don't know much about her or her work, luckily for me I actually have ins...
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Post by Anon on Feb 27, 2014 1:16:20 GMT 1
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Post by APLLA213 on Feb 27, 2014 1:33:59 GMT 1
Lauryn Hill is certainly Christian and she's very pro-Black. I understand people have issues with this who aren't Black, but it is what it is. Anon is correct, Lauryn has read Welsing and some of the other authors Anon mentioned.
Here are the actual lyrics to Ms. Hill. You can't interpret things the way you want to. If it's stated in the lyrics with no hint of confusion and there is history between the two people, it's more than likely what happened. Talib and Lauryn used to be really good friends when they were younger:
[Hook] Another night, slips away In other words, I should say There are no words, you should say There are no words Another night, slips away In other words, I should say There are no words, you should say There are no words Ms. Hill, you got skills, that's a gift, it's real Get ill, what you spit got the power to uplift the heel
[Verse 1: Talib Kweli] I wish I could talk to Lauryn I mean excuse me, Ms. Hill And let her know how much we love her is real The industry was beating her up Then those demons started eating her up She need a savior that'll bleed in a cup, yup We used to kick it in the salad days When she look at me like she ain't know me when she see me nowadays I nod, she nod back, that's how it stay Her songs still better than anything out than "Hot" or "Power" play Remember how they accused her of saying, he did her album without help Then she went to Rome to sing and tell the Pope about herself Just after she left the Fugees, started rolling with the Marleys Got back with her crew at Dave Chapelle's Block Party She made songs about Zion and trying to be faithful Took Black Star on tour in Europe, I was so grateful Speaking for myself but I'm sure I could speak for Dante I got to watch a show with Nina Simone and Harry Belafonte We used to chill at Nkiru, her moms was a customer She used to love to buy the books by Octavia Butler Parable of the Sower, the main character's name was Lauren What the album did for black girls' souls was so important I got concerned when she got sick on the road She ain't healthy,, I'm a brother And I wish that I could pick up the load, but no
[Hook]
[Verse 2: Talib Kweli] Got your assitant on the the phone, "I need to talk to Lauryn" And I wanna walk through the storm, and I could be the umbrella when the rain is pouring Please, this no disrespect to whoever your man is, though This relationship is strictly music like D'angelo I know you hate Babylon, and wanna see it fall But they won't let you read your poem at the BET awards You give us hope, you give us faith, you the one They don't like what you got to say But still they beg you to come, whoa Now that's powerful sis, it's black power We get money, keep our eyes on the final hour And no I ain't saying you Christ, that would be sacriligous right? But you can blow and you nice, sisters them raps is vicious The raps the sisters recite with their black fist up The devil's last wish is a queen that rise past bitches We used to read Francis Cress or anything By Third World Press impressed But what the power of the word suggest Hatched ideas in our heads like birds in the nest You gave birth to a new sound like Donda West, yes Should I be saying all of this while the mic is on? I might as well let it out because one day I might be gone I write this song and hope you feel how much we love you And you play it, cause I really ain't got the words to say it But yo
Lauryn is spiritual and heavy believes in Jesus, but is pro-Black to the fullest and doesn't care what anyone else thinks: In response to her critics, Lauryn Hill offered the explanation: "What I did say was that I love my people, black people, and I will continue to make music for them"
This is why the thread on her racism speech has no comments, ppl are uncomfortable with it. I agree with Anon, her new lp will not be like MEOLH; it will be heavily ladened with Jesus and Black issues.
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Post by APLLA213 on Feb 27, 2014 1:49:53 GMT 1
I'd also like to mention that many Rastas are Christians; it's not all that separate really, but I do know that Bob converted to Christianity. The interesting thing about Rastas though is that Selassie was actually a Christian, he's from the line of SHEBA! Selassie advocated that Jamaicans follow Christ not him, so...
Lauryn's "tell Him" song is referencing Jesus, you can't separate things because it makes you uncomfortable:
Yo heh heh tell him it's like uhh you know uhh Sweet sweet tell him
Let me be patient let me be kind Make me unselfish without being blind Though I may suffer I'll envy it not And endure what comes Cause he's all that I got and Tell him...
Tell him I need him (yeah) Tell him I love him (tell him) And it'll be alright [Background singing] Tell him be alright be alright Tell him tell him I need him Tell him I love him It'll be alright
Now I may have faith to make mountains fall But if I lack love then I am nothin' at all I can give away everything I possess But left without love then I have no happiness I know I'm imperfect (I know I'm imperfect) And not without sin (and not without sin) But now that I'm older all childish things end And tell him...
Tell him I need him (yeah) Tell him I love him (tell him) And it'll be alright [Background singing] Tell him be alright be alright Tell him tell him I need him Tell him I love him It'll be alright
[Bridge] I'll never be jealous And I won't be too proud Cause love is not boastful Oooh and love is not loud Tell him I need him Tell him I love him Everything's gonna be alright [w/ ad libs] Oooh oooh yeah yeah aww yeah
Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth But if I speak wrong then what is it worth? See what we now know is nothing compared To the love that was shown when our lives were spared And tell him...
Tell him I need him (yeah) Tell him I love him (tell him) And it'll be alright [Background singing] Tell him be alright be alright Tell him tell him I need him Tell him I love him It'll be alright
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Post by APLLA213 on Feb 27, 2014 10:42:27 GMT 1
I'd also like to mention that many Rastas are Christians; it's not all that separate really, but I do know that Bob converted to Christianity. The interesting thing about Rastas though is that Selassie was actually a Christian, he's from the line of SHEBA! Selassie advocated that Jamaicans follow Christ not him, so... Lauryn's "tell Him" song is referencing Jesus, you can't separate things because it makes you uncomfortable: Yo heh heh tell him it's like uhh you know uhh Sweet sweet tell him Let me be patient let me be kind Make me unselfish without being blind Though I may suffer I'll envy it not And endure what comes Cause he's all that I got and Tell him... Tell him I need him (yeah) Tell him I love him (tell him) And it'll be alright [Background singing] Tell him be alright be alright Tell him tell him I need him Tell him I love him It'll be alright Now I may have faith to make mountains fall But if I lack love then I am nothin' at all I can give away everything I possess But left without love then I have no happiness I know I'm imperfect (I know I'm imperfect) And not without sin (and not without sin) But now that I'm older all childish things end And tell him... Tell him I need him (yeah) Tell him I love him (tell him) And it'll be alright [Background singing] Tell him be alright be alright Tell him tell him I need him Tell him I love him It'll be alright [Bridge] I'll never be jealous And I won't be too proud Cause love is not boastful Oooh and love is not loud Tell him I need him Tell him I love him Everything's gonna be alright [w/ ad libs] Oooh oooh yeah yeah aww yeah Now I may have wisdom and knowledge on Earth But if I speak wrong then what is it worth? See what we now know is nothing compared To the love that was shown when our lives were spared And tell him... Tell him I need him (yeah) Tell him I love him (tell him) And it'll be alright [Background singing] Tell him be alright be alright Tell him tell him I need him Tell him I love him It'll be alright A good video where Lauryn goes into detail regarding her beliefs: The interludes she's talking.
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Post by Sig Mon tana on Feb 27, 2014 11:04:26 GMT 1
i'd like to thank you, APLLA213 for bringing some sense to this discussion.
That Anon is obviously belligerent but you, I see are very civil. Some people just don't know how to have a polite discussion. I can tell you're nothing like Anon so I'll continue from here on talking to only you, and Anon can bring that negativity elsewhere.
APLLA213 you're right, but Anon is way off.
I suppose you're aware Dr. Cress Welsing is vehemently ANTI-CHRISTian;---so Ms. Hill may not align with her, lest Ms. Hill as a "Christian" subscribe to a "doctrine of devils."
How do you suppose Ms. Hill balances the two diametrically, diabolically opposite creeds from one another, to form one Ms.Hillian belief system?
Anon, please do not answer; I'm only asking this to APLLA213
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Post by APLLA213 on Feb 28, 2014 1:47:43 GMT 1
i'd like to thank you, APLLA213 for bringing some sense to this discussion. That Anon is obviously belligerent but you, I see are very civil. Some people just don't know how to have a polite discussion. I can tell you're nothing like Anon so I'll continue from here on talking to only you, and Anon can bring that negativity elsewhere. APLLA213 you're right, but Anon is way off. I suppose you're aware Dr. Cress Welsing is vehemently ANTI-CHRISTian;---so Ms. Hill may not align with her, lest Ms. Hill as a "Christian" subscribe to a "doctrine of devils." How do you suppose Ms. Hill balances the two diametrically, diabolically opposite creeds from one another, to form one Ms.Hillian belief system? Anon, please do not answer; I'm only asking this to APLLA213 Anon is correct actually. Hill only read her work. I didn't see any suggestions by Anon related to Welsing and Christianity. Welsing = Psychology, not Christianity. I wouldn't go that far to suggest that Welsing is anti-Christian, not believing doesn't mean you're against others who do
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Post by mountzion on Mar 6, 2014 2:07:13 GMT 1
PRO-BLACK DOES NOT MEAN ANTI-WHITE. Say it again to yourself. I'll wait.
No one who is white or not black SHOULD have a problem with this.
Every living thing wants to preserve itself. Black people are the only ones who get criticised for it.
You say she is Pro-Black AND Christian like they are mutually exclusive. Ha! You said a mouthful there!
Carry on...
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