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Post by Nutzz on Nov 10, 2011 16:29:34 GMT 1
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Post by sengun on Nov 10, 2011 17:58:24 GMT 1
@essence I'm sorry but if you really think a Lauryn Hill record can go platinum I think you are living in a fantasy world! I am not at all surprised she has not released an album, or performed new material at her shows! Have you seen what is selling at the moment, it's all shit, commercial shit! The majority would not understand a Lauryn Hill record, she might get good critical feedback, but then again maybe not. Look at what happened to Unplugged it was completley destroyed by the crits, but to some like us it was genious. But this sort of thing doesn't sell records!
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Post by sengun on Nov 10, 2011 18:05:07 GMT 1
You're both speaking as if she was planned to play the miseducation album but... Is it written anywhere? I didn't see any mention of miseduc' album ..... Maybe she'll play the unplugged rearranged or songs unreleased .... Who knows?!
I agree, u guys expect too much from Lauryn though, let her do her thing. Nutzz were u at her show in London 2005, I remember her saying something to the band like "Theres good news and bad, good news is the audience knows english and the bad is the audience knows english." I think she said it as she was about to perform new material with deep lyrical content. Maybe she finds performing new songs in Europe easier as the crowed is more accepting, so lets just wait and see....
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Post by Essence on Nov 10, 2011 19:52:21 GMT 1
@essence I'm sorry but if you really think a Lauryn Hill record can go platinum I think you are living in a fantasy world! I am not at all surprised she has not released an album, or performed new material at her shows! Have you seen what is selling at the moment, it's all shit, commercial shit! The majority would not understand a Lauryn Hill record, she might get good critical feedback, but then again maybe not. Look at what happened to Unplugged it was completley destroyed by the crits, but to some like us it was genious. But this sort of thing doesn't sell records! Are you serious?! "But this sort of thing doesn't sell records!" Now suppose Colombia gave Lauryn that type of advice when she created the Miseducation....oh wait - that's right - they DID. If Sade and Maxwell can come from under their caves and make meaningful music with platinum sales to back it, what on Earth makes you think Lauryn can't? Chuck D said some meaningful words about Ms. Hill in his book, "There's a God on the Mic": Lauryn Hill is a perfect example of a recurring theme in the entertainment industry. No matter how many acts shine through with shallow materialism, the artist with substance always gets more shine, because with that shine comes respect." Why do you think the Miseducation was the Grammy-Award winning, landmark album it was? I'm not sure if you are in tune with Hip-Hop from the late 90s, but the climate wasn't that much different then than it is today, in terms of content and trends. When Miseducation came out, it felt like water in a blazing desert. There was nobody rapping and singing about the topics Lauryn addressed, and if they were, they definitely weren't doing it on the same level. Do you honestly think Lauryn hasn't put out new material because she is afraid the public will not understand her? If that's the case then she wouldn't have kept performing those new arrangements at every concert, because Lord knows her fans did not understand it. Unplugged was a different story - it was live, her voice was shrewd, the production was less than great, and it had NO marketing. So the fact that THAT album even went platinum speaks volumes. I don't expect too much from anyone, especially not from Lauryn. How is waiting for new music expecting too much? That's like asking a professional photographer to take a picture of you, and someone tells you that you are asking for too much. I expect Lauryn to create new music and share it because she is an ARTIST. She said at one her concerts that she has musically grown "exponentially", well, some of us are still waiting for her to manifest that.
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Post by ladona on Nov 11, 2011 2:59:49 GMT 1
@essence I'm sorry but if you really think a Lauryn Hill record can go platinum I think you are living in a fantasy world! I am not at all surprised she has not released an album, or performed new material at her shows! Have you seen what is selling at the moment, it's all shit, commercial shit! The majority would not understand a Lauryn Hill record, she might get good critical feedback, but then again maybe not. Look at what happened to Unplugged it was completley destroyed by the crits, but to some like us it was genious. But this sort of thing doesn't sell records! What does it take to go platinum, 1,000,000? I don't think that Essence's presumptions are half-baked at all. Lauryn can ABSOLUTELY go platinum. Remember, we don't know what she's working on or if she's collaborating with anyone. All she has to do is release a couple of good singles. Her unreleased song "Repercussions" made the Billboard charts last year. So it's very possible to sell 1,000,000 units with the right promotion . She has "Miseducation" and "Unplugged" fans all over the world waiting.
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Post by masdo on Nov 11, 2011 12:57:15 GMT 1
Anyone who thinks Lauryn Hill wont sell records when she releases a new album is delusional. These crappy artists currently dominating the industry they only go platinum and never reach beyond that. These artists get a lot of marketing and promotion but they are not selling as they should, for me reaching platinum status is not a huge success. Look at Adele‘s album sales they have gone over 10 million which means she is trashing all this crappy music out there. This is a testament that people gravitate towards good music. When the Miseducation was released Sony/Columbia thought the album was going to flop not knowing that it will make music history and sell over 22 million copies. Same recipe applies to the Fugees Score over 22 million copies sold as well. How do we really compare such massive sales with platinum sales it is really pathetic. If Lauryn releases good music with proper marketing and promotion she is definitely guaranteed good sales.
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Post by puma on Nov 11, 2011 15:10:30 GMT 1
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Post by Nutzz on Nov 11, 2011 15:26:50 GMT 1
"New demand followed with a stream of opportunities in Europe, America and Asia."
Awww !! Gosh! I'll be in Haïti next year for 6 months.... Do you think she could come???
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Post by 8888888 on Nov 11, 2011 19:07:58 GMT 1
If anyone is deluded it's u guys. A Lauryn hill record really won't sell, it's sad, but true the majority of people don't get her style. For example look how unpluged was treated, and look at the reponses from her shows from the last 10 years, more people walk out than enjoy or appreciate it. Just because to us her music is genious I truely don't belive the majority of music buyers will buy it.
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Post by ladona on Nov 11, 2011 21:46:41 GMT 1
If anyone is deluded it's u guys. A Lauryn hill record really won't sell, it's sad, but true the majority of people don't get her style. For example look how unpluged was treated, and look at the reponses from her shows from the last 10 years, more people walk out than enjoy or appreciate it. Just because to us her music is genious I truely don't belive the majority of music buyers will buy it. "For example look how unpluged was treated" And it still went platinum . I don't think she needs the majority of people to get her style, she just needs enough. Besides, the majority of music buyers don't buy any one person's music. Unless it's a new artist, all artists have their own fan-base, and Lauryn has a huge following, still. There are two artists that many people are waiting on a follow-up album from, and they are Lauryn Hill and D'angelo. She has had a somewhat difficult time with her image lately, but people are very forgiving. All she needs is a couple of good singles or maybe even just one. Like, Essence said, Sade and Maxwell did it, and I can name only one cut from their albums--"Soldier of Love" and "Pretty Wings." Btw, we don't know what her style is these days.
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Post by Moderator on Nov 16, 2011 6:03:20 GMT 1
Lauryn doesn't have anything to prove anymore. Has anyone thought of that as the reason why she doesn't release any new music?
In regards to the music business, she's achieved everything there is to achieve. The global admiration, legion of fans, huge record sales (in a group and as a soloist), numerous accolades and more.
Music is a part of her and always will be, so she will keep performing and doing shows but in terms of the music business, Lauryn is beyond it.
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Post by Essence on Nov 16, 2011 7:37:11 GMT 1
Lauryn doesn't have anything to prove anymore. Has anyone thought of that as the reason why she doesn't release any new music?
In regards to the music business, she's achieved everything there is to achieve. The global admiration, legion of fans, huge record sales (in a group and as a soloist), numerous accolades and more. Music is a part of her and always will be, so she will keep performing and doing shows but in terms of the music business, Lauryn is beyond it. Lauryn may be beyond the music industry, but the industry clearly isn't beyond her. I can't speak for everyone, but I think a big reason why Lauryn appealed to so many people is because she had more to offer than most of her peers - she could spit bars better than her male counterparts, swoop and soar with the best singers, and had political substance. That's a combination unheard of in Hip-Hop, let alone the music business. There have been many follow-ups, and different artists to succeed her, but have any of them come close to topping the impact she made? I'm not talking about the Grammys, the "global admiration, legion of fans, huge record sales, numerous accolades", etc, I'm talking about the social impact of Ms. Lauryn Hill. All that other stuff is material - they will "make you now, then take you down", but when you touch a person's life, or inspire, empower and personify them, nothing can erase that impact. Some fans want and look forward to Lauryn making a comeback, because they want that genuine soul to speak to them once again, and ultimately view her as a vehicle to accessing a higher plane. She doesn't have to, but I can't name anyone as talented to fulfill those shoes. Not unless you're expecting to hear The Miseducation Of Estelle [or Beyonce]. lol
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Post by puma on Nov 17, 2011 2:26:26 GMT 1
Just saw this tweet:
@jamaicastar Jamaica Star Lauryn Hill & Ne-yo will be the overseas acts performing at 'Shaggy & Friends' on Dec 30, 2011! Check The STAR this week 4 all the details!
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Post by gest on Nov 17, 2011 6:35:30 GMT 1
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Post by puma on Nov 19, 2011 22:08:15 GMT 1
Lauryn Plays Mohegan Sun December 17th
Tickets On Sale: Friday, November 18, 2011 at 10:00am
Ms. Lauryn Hill is a multi-talented recording artist and she is set to bring her infectious R&B rhythms to Mohegan Sun Arena. Ms. Hill launched her solo career with the release of the commercially successful and critically acclaimed album The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill. The recording earned a record breaking five Grammy Awards.
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