petra
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Post by petra on Apr 17, 2008 22:54:16 GMT 1
i was just wondering is there actually a dirty version of doo wop that thing, cause she censors some words?
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Post by Moderator on Apr 18, 2008 17:55:10 GMT 1
I've never heard a dirty version. I don't think it's ever been leaked
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Post by Philo on Apr 25, 2008 2:27:04 GMT 1
I don't believe that version may actually exist in full form. I think once she recorded the vocals, there was an instant censor done before it was applied to the tracks.
If there is a dirty version it will probably never see the light of day. She seems consumed with keeping demos private. I've never heard a demo to ANY of her Miseducation stuff.
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Post by Moderator on Apr 25, 2008 3:33:54 GMT 1
Yeah, well i really like the way the artists were so private about they're recordings in the past. I mean like in the 90s and way back. There was always ghost writers for artist and ghost producers. You never knew what went on behind the scenes like today. And i like that it is kept private like Lauryn does with her demos and other recordings I mean since Unplugged i'm sure she has many tracks she has penned down in the studio. This woman loves music, and there is no way she wouldn't have.
I'm speaking for hip hop now...There was none of these artists who actually wrote songs about hating others and told you exactly who they hated for example. Nowadays they make it so obvious. In the past they didn't make it so obvious so the listener could relate it to their life. Normally the fans would have a feeling who the song was really talking to. Like how we think Lauryn wrote the song ex-factor about Clef. And Clef wrote 911 for Lauryn. I really like it how we don't know the exact truth. It leaves us to interpret the song the way we want.
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Post by Balao on Apr 25, 2008 4:59:19 GMT 1
Real creation is secret. It can happen any time. It cannot be televised. Nor can it be scheduled. You cannot have inspiration on command (or I would be a billionnnaire) Performances, however, can be televised and scheduled, like with Unplugged 2.0 or the song All You Need Is Love...
I always found it very sad to see songs that were leaked and that the artist would never have released (John Lennon whistling in his bathroom... lol) and, on the other hand, it is very annoying that we (the fans, the audience...) do not have access to all the live materials that have been entirely filmed.
If you want to hear Dirty Doo Wap, check out the live version, or pray.
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Post by profound on Apr 25, 2008 16:42:18 GMT 1
This is heavy! I like what you're saying!
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Post by Balao on Apr 25, 2008 23:50:18 GMT 1
Cheers !
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Post by John Keats on Apr 28, 2008 4:16:47 GMT 1
Yeah, well i really like the way the artists were so private about they're recordings in the past. I mean like in the 90s and way back. There was always ghost writers for artist and ghost producers. You never knew what went on behind the scenes like today. And i like that it is kept private like Lauryn does with her demos and other recordings I mean since Unplugged i'm sure she has many tracks she has penned down in the studio. This woman loves music, and there is no way she wouldn't have. I'm speaking for hip hop now...There was none of these artists who actually wrote songs about hating others and told you exactly who they hated for example. Nowadays they make it so obvious. In the past they didn't make it so obvious so the listener could relate it to their life. Normally the fans would have a feeling who the song was really talking to. Like how we think Lauryn wrote the song ex-factor about Clef. And Clef wrote 911 for Lauryn. I really like it how we don't know the exact truth. It leaves us to interpret the song the way we want. That mostly ended with 2Pac...he called EVERYONE out. And then 50 Cent came along and got famous by doing it and things were never the same. Rappers were dissing since the begining though, KRS-One and the likes had well-known beefs, although I don't know how explicit they were in naming names. The NWA(Dr. Dre/Eazy-E, Ice Cube) crew went back and forth for a while too, making it pretty obvious who they were dissing. Listen to the first track on Dr. Dre's The Chronic, Snoop Dogg names quite a few people that he thinks can eat a thingy. They weren't trying to hide it. I see where you're coming from, but to say that names were never named is not the case. It's just now it's EVERYWHERE, not just in certain pockets. But obviously...you still find a lot of subliminal disses around, too. |
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Post by Moderator on Apr 28, 2008 5:20:46 GMT 1
Yeah, well i really like the way the artists were so private about they're recordings in the past. I mean like in the 90s and way back. There was always ghost writers for artist and ghost producers. You never knew what went on behind the scenes like today. And i like that it is kept private like Lauryn does with her demos and other recordings I mean since Unplugged i'm sure she has many tracks she has penned down in the studio. This woman loves music, and there is no way she wouldn't have. I'm speaking for hip hop now...There was none of these artists who actually wrote songs about hating others and told you exactly who they hated for example. Nowadays they make it so obvious. In the past they didn't make it so obvious so the listener could relate it to their life. Normally the fans would have a feeling who the song was really talking to. Like how we think Lauryn wrote the song ex-factor about Clef. And Clef wrote 911 for Lauryn. I really like it how we don't know the exact truth. It leaves us to interpret the song the way we want. That mostly ended with 2Pac...he called EVERYONE out. And then 50 Cent came along and got famous by doing it and things were never the same. Rappers were dissing since the begining though, KRS-One and the likes had well-known beefs, although I don't know how explicit they were in naming names. The NWA(Dr. Dre/Eazy-E, Ice Cube) crew went back and forth for a while too, making it pretty obvious who they were dissing. Listen to the first track on Dr. Dre's The Chronic, Snoop Dogg names quite a few people that he thinks can eat a thingy. They weren't trying to hide it. I see where you're coming from, but to say that names were never named is not the case. It's just now it's EVERYWHERE, not just in certain pockets. But obviously...you still find a lot of subliminal disses around, too. Yeah, i understand what you mean. But the only thing i am so surprised about these days is just how many different avenues these artists explore to go out and diss someone. I mean in the past it was all in the music...now it's like the media, newspapers, magazines, radio, internet. It's all blown out of proportion just to make publicity. Artists are forgetting that they are only got famous for their music, and i believe they are forgetting that. |
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Post by JohnKeats on Apr 28, 2008 22:57:10 GMT 1
Yeah that is right on. YouTube videos, hacking web sites, photoshopped mixtape covers, interviews, etc etc etc.
I honestly believe all of this emphasis on dissing stems from 50 Cent. The dude got rich off of it and now everyone tries it. They'll take down anyone and everyone to get in a better situation. It's kind of sickening...now instead of trying to get in good with a huge artist to come up, they diss that big artist to try get him to respond....thus bringing attention to themselves. The 50 Cent Method.
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Post by Moderator on Apr 29, 2008 17:53:59 GMT 1
'The 50 Cent Method' haha be careful you're giving him ideas  |
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Post by Dude on Aug 14, 2014 3:24:13 GMT 1
I heard the dirty version on pandora!! It must exist somewhere...
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Post by puma on Aug 14, 2014 3:40:26 GMT 1
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Post by mountzion on Aug 15, 2014 4:09:53 GMT 1
Only heard her say the censored words live. Last week in NJ included! She always cusses at her live shows lol
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Post by thesesocialdrugs on Aug 21, 2014 2:44:32 GMT 1
I have the uncensored version! It's the one with the long drum intro
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