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Post by true2u on Jan 5, 2017 13:48:21 GMT 1
For years fans have waited for a new album from Lauryn. However, does she have anything to gain by producing such an album? As long as the anticipation is there, fans can only imagine what a body of work this will be. If this album is release and it does not live up to its billing of the long awaited follow up to MEOLH then it brings the “One Hit Wonder “into play.
For the past several years those that are in attendance at the concerts constantly express their disapproval of the arrangements of once cherished favorites tunes like ex-factor, everything is everything etc. they described them as unrecognizable, unable to sing along to, to punk rock, too loud, too reggae etc. In more recent performances, . Lauryn has shifted to a more afro-beat that up the frenziness of the pace to another stratosphere It poses the question, if these same songs had been release with these new musical arrangements would there be any high sales or credits to the album?
Her most recent work, “Rebel “a revision of her earlier recording on the unplugged album, poses a real challenge to her true expression, Will she stand up and Live or continue to revamp that which was once define as treasured to what can be define as, how come we ain’t getting no higher if music is suppose to inspire?
In closing say what you will, but when she was surrounded by New Ark, there was an adhesiveness that came from a creative place that haven’t been recaptured since the split about credits and of course the dollar.
I think it time for Lauryn to do what she echoed on MEOLH, “Forgive” and live or Rebel and continue to be stagnate.
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Post by Nobody knows on Jan 5, 2017 14:28:04 GMT 1
Unplugged had great songs and that album came after the split. I also like black rage, I got life, and back and forth. She should've just put out albums like Prince and let the pieces fall where they may. Some succeed, some won't.
New Ark appears even less productive than Lauryn has been. What I've heard from them had zero substance, so I'm surprised that you, true2u, of all people want her to link with them. As I recall they are the ones who warned Lauryn of preaching too much and encouraged watering down her message.
You are hypocritical. You criticize Lauryn for certain things then you root for the likes of new wark and Wyclef who urge her towards things you claim to be against. weird agenda you got there.
Will Lauryn releasing an album and succeeding on her own harm you in some way? Your purpose seems to be to discourage Lauryn and you grasp any and every angle you can find. Weird mission to have against some who's been gone from the scene do long.
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Post by true2u on Jan 5, 2017 16:12:48 GMT 1
Unplugged had great songs and that album came after the split. I also like black rage, I got life, and back and forth. She should've just put out albums like Prince and let the pieces fall where they may. Some succeed, some won't. New Ark appears even less productive than Lauryn has been. What I've heard from them had zero substance, so I'm surprised that you, true2u, of all people want her to link with them. As I recall they are the ones who warned Lauryn of preaching too much and encouraged watering down her message. You are hypocritical. You criticize Lauryn for certain things then you root for the likes of new wark and Wyclef who urge her towards things you claim to be against. weird agenda you got there. Will Lauryn releasing an album and succeeding on her own harm you in some way? Your purpose seems to be to discourage Lauryn and you grasp any and every angle you can find. Weird mission to have against some who's been gone from the scene do long. Like it or not pride goes before a fall. With that being said, there is no denying that most of the album was the result of Lauryn experiences with Wyclef;I used to love him, lost one, superstar, forgive them, when it hurt so bad, ex-factor, sweetest thing these had Clef name written all over them. I notice the time when Lauryn brought Ro out singing sweetest thing and when she got to the part of dark skin tones, he blushed knowing that wasnot him. However, watch out seem to have been talking about him. I am not hypocritical, but the only songs Lauryn seems comfortable singing these days are those she song with Fugees and like it or not the sound is still missing that "iiiiittt" these days. No, the purpose is to get her to see that forgiveness isn't something to throw at others and not adhere to the same principles herself. The fugees celebrated their 20 years from score and Lauryn could have done a tour, she is singing all the verses anyway so all is not lost. What if they did like New Ark and told her to leave out their verse now what? The bottom line you are not an island and will need and have needed someone else to have been successful. LBoogie is still sticking and I believe it was Clef that tagged this name. Like it or not that riff from Clef guitar in Sweetest thing bring the lyrics into play. KMS with one and 2 times is his so the truth shines light but darkness comprehends it not. Finally, Lauryn lack identity to whom she is. She was taught rap by clef, R&B by Ree Ree, Al Green, Donny Hathaway, Reggae by Bob, Afro beat Keunti, Jazz Nina Simone, now what is Lauryn's style or conviction? She is a fish out of water. Trying to fix herself for society. Peace only comes from the Prince of Peace. Amen.
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Post by Nobody knows on Jan 5, 2017 18:48:23 GMT 1
true2u, like it or not Lauryn has moved on and she has the right to do so. MLK and Malcolm leadership was the result of experiencing racism and oppression. That doesn't make either good or responsible for their accomplishments.
You don't know that Lauryn hasn't forgiven. Wyclef has an absuive personality, so some people you forgive and move on. Especially a situation like that - even if he doesn't mind disrespecting his wife by hanging with a woman he had an affair with, maybe Lauryn sees it differently. What wife would appreciate that?
What you call identity I believe Lauryn sees as a box. From what I'm hearing in the last year, her sound has come together. So I have to disagree. I forgot to mention her Christmas song/production Cradle In Bethlehem as another release I think is great. Not to mention past songs like Rebel, I Had To Walk, World Is A Hustle. Other people had their contributions at various points, but Lauryn has her own gift that she has every right to embrace. At this point, I think she has found her space or at least very close to it at this point.
Anyway, the common thread in all your posts seems to be to discourage Lauryn or her fans somehow. And your insistence that she needs Wyclef or New Ark at this point in her life is a bit silly if not downright delusional. They did their part but Lauryn is clearly a different person, in her 40s, 6 kids later. The people you speak of were essentially her childhood friends.
You say you care about forgiveness, but it seems you are actually strangely invested in Wyclef's ego.
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Post by true2u on Jan 5, 2017 19:09:36 GMT 1
true2u, like it or not Lauryn has moved on and she has the right to do so. MLK and Malcolm leadership was the result of experiencing racism and oppression. That doesn't make either good or responsible for their accomplishments. You don't know that Lauryn hasn't forgiven. Wyclef has an absuive personality, so some people you forgive and move on. Especially a situation like that - even if he doesn't mind disrespecting his wife by hanging with a woman he had an affair with, maybe Lauryn sees it differently. What wife would appreciate that? What you call identity I believe Lauryn sees as a box. From what I'm hearing in the last year, her sound has come together. So I have to disagree. I forgot to mention her Christmas song/production Cradle In Bethlehem as another release I think is great. Not to mention past songs like Rebel, I Had To Walk, World Is A Hustle. Other people had their contributions at various points, but Lauryn has her own gift that she has every right to embrace. At this point, I think she has found her space or at least very close to it at this point. Anyway, the common thread in all your posts seems to be to discourage Lauryn or her fans somehow. And your insistence that she needs Wyclef or New Ark at this point in her life is a bit silly if not downright delusional. They did their part but Lauryn is clearly a different person, in her 40s, 6 kids later. The people you speak of were essentially her childhood friends. You say you care about forgiveness, but it seems you are actually strangely invested in Wyclef's ego. true2u, like it or not Lauryn has moved on and she has the right to do so. MLK and Malcolm leadership was the result of experiencing racism and oppression. That doesn't make either good or responsible for their accomplishments. Without their struggles they wouldn't have fulfilled their destiny. However, that was a serious fight for humanity. These are not to be compared to emotional mishaps. Nonetheless it was these mishaps that put her in the spotlight. Further the brain is a funny thing; the more you condition it the more it will ...She is perpetually stuck in the 90's and I agree it is time to move on. The audience is what dictate the success. Fans usually make for idol worship and can't see the forest for the trees. I don't think truth will discourage them when they have been hanging on for years for all the leaks music and videos looking for fool's gold, and illusions, they like make believe, I notice you didn't mention consumerism and neurotic society. breathless pace but it still running through their veins like cancer. You loose them with substance everytime. She knows this from her acoustic tour. I don't see ego, but if I had an opinion about it I would say both head was swell and two couldn't occupy the same mic, someone had to be the greatest. but when business is the issue of the day, both should be able to put IT aside. No, I don't think the wife would be intolerance she allowed in 2006, so ...it's okay.
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Post by Nobody knows on Jan 6, 2017 12:57:32 GMT 1
True2u, if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. Right? I think you might love Wyclef more than you love Jesus. Lol I doubt his wife had a choice, he's a well known chronic cheater who obviously disregards her feelings. Just because she accepts it doesn't make it right.
Now you are back to whining about substance while wanting her to work with men who discourage it? Just as I said, you are all over the place!!!!
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Post by Rebel on Jan 6, 2017 16:09:47 GMT 1
When I seen her last month in MD she said that she's preparing to release her follow up album so I do think it's coming soon. Most likely released through Tidal. She also performed a few songs over in the original form saying "sometime you have to go back to move forward" performing exfactor, to good to be true and vocab. She seems like she's more ready than ever to release some new music. only time will tell. She going back on tour next month so maybe we will get a new track or video.
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Post by AinA on Jan 6, 2017 23:09:13 GMT 1
'sometime you have to go back to move forward'
This is so true. You can interpret this a couple of ways. It's very true though, very true.
You know what'd be sorta cool tho (I love the Fugees and their work)is if Lauryn and nem released like a double or triple album with one of the albums being a fugees album lol. I know that sounds crazy and is more than likely wishful thinking lol, but a triple album would be NUTS lol. She wouldn't have to release a god damn thing for quite some time if she wanted to. That would be major! I don't know how that would work with touring and all that, probably isn't really feasible. I just like the idea lol. Each album could have its own title and it sorta takes you through the phases/segues. Include videos like Beyonce (maybe not the entire 3 albums, just some of the songs), man so much you could do! They'd have to treat her right and also be equitable in their business dealings. Everyone knows Lauryn made the fugees but the brothers are talented too, not gon' knock em, but errybody knows L was the major player in the fugees (including the men). I love what they represented as Black folks, loved the imagery, but if the images you portray ain't what's real, leave the images in the dust and get it together. People gotta do right by each other. We should be taking care of each other as a people and looking out for each other.
I don't know if Wyclef has ever truly taken responsibility or apologized and if he hasn't, that could be the biggest hold up and if he has, he needs to keep her name out his mouth unless he gets the OK from Lauryn. He seems shady (I'm leery of negroes that talk in circles and he does that a lot lol). Maybe he's learned his lesson, because he ain't said nothing lately, which is GOOD. You wanna get things back on track, stop talking to the media, take responsibility if you haven't all ready and see if Lauryn will work it out. She may not be ready...if ever...she has to rebuild trust (I'm forever hopeful lol, I don't care if she is 60, if that fugees album gets made, I'm coppin it lmao).
The media/system will always benefit from publicly displaying our discord in a certain way. It's normal to have it, but there's a way to do resolve it amongst each other and you can address inaccuracies too, but there's a way to do it. Try not to give them any wiggle room to misinterpret. At the end of the day, it has to be seen that even with discord we still good. As much as I'd prefer any disharmony and inaccuracy to be settled privately, sometimes you have to address it publicly for whatever reason. Hip-hop used to be "exclusive" and so it remained in the network it was supposed to remain in, now...
I think Lauryn will probably address a loootttt of stuff with this album...set the record straight etc...so that's good.
Anyway, go get happy true2u it's a new year and folks been tired of your meandering contradicting posts. You couldn't even wait until the new year to begin your fkry lol
Happy New Year y'all.
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Post by Oprah on Jan 15, 2017 23:16:48 GMT 1
Something has to happen, as she's near the end of the current tour, unless she decides to tour again. I been waiting on a follow up album since I was in JR High School, and I'm now finishing up my Ph.D and still no follow up album. I think this year will put things in perspective for fans. Lauryn will either release a follow up album, or she will tour again and basically become a touring act; who will never release a follow up album.
If she tours again what do y'all think the next tour will be named?
Come on Lauryn... Just a little Back and Forth lol
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Post by Oprah on Jan 18, 2017 23:39:00 GMT 1
I see Lauryn will be headlining Bonanza in June...
I guess she will be releasing her next tour schedule soon...
Oh well...
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Post by AinA on Jan 19, 2017 20:55:33 GMT 1
oh...man i'm ecstatic!! maybe this occurrence will spark something lol ...a miracle y'all! Lauryn needs to talk some sense into Wyclef. That mess he said the other day...bruh...no..kill it with the nonsense Miami's newest music festival, Kaya Fest, has already made headlines by reuniting the Marley brothers onstage for the first time in more than two decades. Now organizers have announced special appearances by Lauryn Hill, who packed the Fillmore Miami Beach last month, as well as her former Fugees bandmate Wyclef Jean.www.miaminewtimes.com/music/ms-lauryn-hill-wyclef-jean-join-kaya-fest-lineup-9076546Hill has spent the better part of the past year on tour, kicking off her MLH Caravan: A Diaspora Calling! concert series in August. In December, she helped close out 2016 with a pair of shows at the Fillmore Miami Beach, where she crooned in a sparkling ensemble during what many fans called one of Miami's best shows of the year. Empowering soul singer and rapper Lauryn Hill and another former Fugee, Wyclef Jean, have joined an already impressive lineup for the inaugural Kaya Fest, the brainchild of Grammy Award-winning performer and producer Stephen Marley at Bayfront Park in Miami on April 22.
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Post by Oprah on Jan 20, 2017 2:25:54 GMT 1
oh...man i'm ecstatic!! maybe this occurrence will spark something lol ...a miracle y'all! Lauryn needs to talk some sense into Wyclef. That mess he said the other day...bruh...no..kill it with the nonsense Miami's newest music festival, Kaya Fest, has already made headlines by reuniting the Marley brothers onstage for the first time in more than two decades. Now organizers have announced special appearances by Lauryn Hill, who packed the Fillmore Miami Beach last month, as well as her former Fugees bandmate Wyclef Jean.www.miaminewtimes.com/music/ms-lauryn-hill-wyclef-jean-join-kaya-fest-lineup-9076546Hill has spent the better part of the past year on tour, kicking off her MLH Caravan: A Diaspora Calling! concert series in August. In December, she helped close out 2016 with a pair of shows at the Fillmore Miami Beach, where she crooned in a sparkling ensemble during what many fans called one of Miami's best shows of the year. Empowering soul singer and rapper Lauryn Hill and another former Fugee, Wyclef Jean, have joined an already impressive lineup for the inaugural Kaya Fest, the brainchild of Grammy Award-winning performer and producer Stephen Marley at Bayfront Park in Miami on April 22. I guess this will give Wyclef the chance to ask Lauryn about that Fugees album lol
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Post by AinA on Jan 20, 2017 4:01:49 GMT 1
oh...man i'm ecstatic!! maybe this occurrence will spark something lol ...a miracle y'all! Lauryn needs to talk some sense into Wyclef. That mess he said the other day...bruh...no..kill it with the nonsense Miami's newest music festival, Kaya Fest, has already made headlines by reuniting the Marley brothers onstage for the first time in more than two decades. Now organizers have announced special appearances by Lauryn Hill, who packed the Fillmore Miami Beach last month, as well as her former Fugees bandmate Wyclef Jean.www.miaminewtimes.com/music/ms-lauryn-hill-wyclef-jean-join-kaya-fest-lineup-9076546Hill has spent the better part of the past year on tour, kicking off her MLH Caravan: A Diaspora Calling! concert series in August. In December, she helped close out 2016 with a pair of shows at the Fillmore Miami Beach, where she crooned in a sparkling ensemble during what many fans called one of Miami's best shows of the year. Empowering soul singer and rapper Lauryn Hill and another former Fugee, Wyclef Jean, have joined an already impressive lineup for the inaugural Kaya Fest, the brainchild of Grammy Award-winning performer and producer Stephen Marley at Bayfront Park in Miami on April 22. I guess this will give Wyclef the chance to ask Lauryn about that Fugees album lol LOL you got jokes lol aye, you know what? Whatever comes out of it, I'm cool with it. It's a damn miracle lol.
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Post by Wendy on Jan 20, 2017 17:39:24 GMT 1
If she IS indeed planning to release an album, I can see her doing another big block of recording sessions, some more tour dates, and inking deals with Tidal etc. (possibly even a video) this year, whilst the album is being mastered and mixed and everything.. which would have all the machinations in place for her to release some sort of project next year (2018), which would be the 20th anniversary of The Miseducation.
We know she's been recording, has a slew of new songs like 'Back and Forth', and the Nina Simone CD was a big step forward for her I think. When she's writing these new pieces though, it must be tempting to just wait it out. See how they develop in the live shows, and then just keep going, eventually moving onto the next song and not really thinking about recording in the end. I think this is part of why it's taken her so long. With 'Miseducation' she moved to Jamaica, really buckled down with writers and producers, and focused on creating a BULK of work... really 'making a project'. The newer songs seem built out of jams with her band, and destined to change and improve in front of audiences over time. Which means the onus on her to actually record and release them would be less important.
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Post by jon on Jan 21, 2017 11:28:04 GMT 1
Aw hell not the rumor mill again!!! Guys!!! stop speculating, coz that just gets everyones hopes up, acting like ya'll know when she be dropping new shit!!! just staaaap ok. Get outta here with your he said she said mumbo jumbo. Speculations been running for years as to when she gone drop an album.. ''of cooourse she said she was getting stuff ready for a new album" how many years we heard that for now huh! until it's from officials, or the horses mouth, then I aint believing jack!!
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