I also hope true2u has the courage now or eventually to ask the questions. God didn't stop speaking when Jesus died on the cross. He is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow. When one honestly asks the questions with a heart that is willing to receive the answer - the answer comes, every time. God is the living God. Not confined to pages in a book commissioned by man, as supermoonface so eloquently points out.
I also hope true2u has the courage now or eventually to ask the questions. God didn't stop speaking when Jesus died on the cross. He is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow. When one honestly asks the questions with a heart that is willing to receive the answer - the answer comes, every time. God is the living God. Not confined to pages in a book commissioned by man, as supermoonface so eloquently points out.
No he didn’t stop speaking when He inspired this book. But what you and Moon fail to see is that this book didn’t stop when Jesus died on the cross. Also keep in mind all of the epistles were written after Jesus ascending into heaven. Let me help you with something. Jesus was slain before the foundation of the world. That means that before any man exist, God in his infinite wisdom knew man would sin and He made provision to redeem mankind from their sins before any sin was ever committed.
All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast--all whose names have not been written in the Lamb's book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. Revelations 13:8
Also, this book was not commissioned by man but God Himself. 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works. 2Timothy 3:16-17
However, just as important is the fact that God saw the end at the beginning so when you hear prophecies like in the last days man will be lovers of themselves. It not something just written, God saw the end times and told us what it would be like by having his servant to write it down and it became a part of the bible.
I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come. I say, 'My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please..Isaiah 46:10
When he talks about the last church, the Laodicean church, it reflects the condition that the church would be in before his return. This would be the church that mixed itself with the world. It is more interested in comfort, money, and appearance, but ignorant to the ways of God. This church thought it had it going on, but God told John the condition of this church.
17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked Revelations 3:17
The point that I am making is that God is still speaking today, but whatever He is saying it will not go against the words that He has decreed in the bible. The Holy Spirit is our comforter to lead and guide us in the way of truth. This Spirit comes from the Father Himself. It is our navigator and He leads us in the paths we should take in this life and prepare us for the life to come.
This book told you that: *knowledge would increase Daniel 12:4 man heart will wax cold (no love for one another)Matthew 24:12 that men and women would lust for one another and because they didn’t desire to retain the truth, that he would give them over to their desires and they would become reprobates(unable to know right from wrong)Roman 1:24-25
He told you Satan would masquerade himself as an angel of light 1Corinthians 11:14 and because men did not like to retain the truth. He would send them a strong delusion that they might believe the lie. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-11
It goes on and on but you get my point.
Yes, God is still speaking and the book is still talking. Remember In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.The word became flesh (Jesus) and dwell among us John 1:14 . Whenever you want to know what God is saying go to the book. He is indeed still talking.
Post by supermoonface on Feb 23, 2016 10:20:45 GMT 1
But what about of the bits of scripture that have been omitted or translated incorrectly or edited. maybe it's my gods will that these should be corrected.
But what about of the bits of scripture that have been omitted or translated incorrectly or edited. maybe it's my gods will that these should be corrected.
No, man, in his futile attempt to water down or bring confusion, has made so many translations of the bible to satisfy himself. They have organized their own panels to take out words that were originally apart of the bible. For example it said, a "crooked and perverse" generation always seeking signs. but now it has been changed to a wicked and adulterous generation. "Hell" has been taken out in a lot of the translation, but that's where the Holy Spirit comes in; when you want to know truths, He'll (Holy Spirit) will make sure you find it and understand its meaning.
Whenever we try to use logic like the bible is written by man, that would be a miracle in itself. Man would not have included the lake of fire, sin, 10 commandments, adultery, fornication etc. Now that these curses from Deuteronomy is upon the face of the earth due to man's disobedience, we won't admit it. Like the itch that won't go away, land not producing, birth defects,22 The Lord shall smite thee with a consumption (a wasting disease, especially pulmonary tuberculosis), and with a fever, and with an inflammation, and with an extreme burning, and with the sword, and with blasting, and with mildew; and they shall pursue thee until thou perish.
He isn't in a panic that man is stubborn and refuse to change. He told us this the way it would be: lovers of self, unnatural affection, liars, hater of that which is good. One scripture said they would call evil good and good evil. Once your thoughts become vain, madness isn't far away. Read the chapter it covers everything.
At the end of the day we should take heed to the warning. "Be still and know I am God."
Sidebar: I think that's why He created us on the six day, I can see us trying to tell Him where the water should go, when the cattle should be created etc. We don't have the mind to know his mind and He tells us His ways aren't like our ways and His thoughts are not like our thoughts.
Post by supermoonface on Feb 23, 2016 17:26:43 GMT 1
So it doesn't matter which version of the bible you read? The Holy Spirit will enable you to understand ?
Then canon is simply a consensus of opinion no ?
If I interpret a passage one way and you another and we both claim that interpretation from the Holy Spirit then who is right ?
Am gonna stick to what I feel is right
Sometimes the maker of the rains works overtime and the rivers burst their banks and merge / there is turbulence for a while and some markers are uprooted and carried a little further towards the sea
Post by supermoonface on Feb 23, 2016 18:12:08 GMT 1
You have shown your true colours. You are not a sheep you are an agent for them. The ideas you support condem 1/10 of humanity to life of exploitation and control by others. This weapon is no longer wielded exclusively by your masters but by all elements. I will not have my people lives been used like this as pawns. We must be removed from your Arsenal and given back our right to live freely.
You well know mildew is the cause of all the ailments listed above as curses and with this you betray yourself.
You are not as you present. You subscribe to the doctorine of lies to children and are fully aware of what you do. You represent nothing of the ideals of Jesus or God to me.
No more true2u!
The secrets of your organisation will remain so and the children fed their lies but this is not a place for that!
You have shown your true colours. You are not a sheep you are an agent for them. The ideas you support condem 1/10 of humanity to life of exploitation and control by others. This weapon is no longer wielded exclusively by your masters but by all elements. I will not have my people lives been used like this as pawns. We must be removed from your Arsenal and given back our right to live freely.
You well know mildew is the cause of all the ailments listed above as curses and with this you betray yourself.
You are not as you present. You subscribe to the doctorine of lies to children and are fully aware of what you do. You represent nothing of the ideals of Jesus or God to me.
No more true2u!
The secrets of your organisation will remain so and the children fed their lies but this is not a place for that!
Moon let the Holy Spirit do his job. The day you hear his voice harden not your heart. These are his words about the curses; I just deliver the mail, I don't write the letter, but I know the address that I am suppose to deliver this mail to. You have to decide if you receive what I am saying then you would have to face the fact that you have been living a lie. If I was near you I would hug you now because you haven't been given over to reprobate and your conscious is not seared. Praise Him Be bless my brother.
Plus am a little scared - I don't want to be smited with mildew
Mildew is the least of your worries. "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after your body has been killed, has authority to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him. Luke 12:4-5