Wyclef on Lauryn Hill

[pippip262]

www.essence.com/entertainment/hot_topics/wyclef_my_haitian_experience_and_lauryn_hill.php

[Moderator]

Well, this is a much different Wyclef Jean. It sounds like he is learning about life and its experiences. When it comes to music, i mean i don't want to sound like i'm bashing the man, but he is a limited artist. Young kids buy music a lot more than adults, and young kids aren't really going to warm up to his 'Haitian Experience'. I think it's his music career that is hurting him the most, and not being withdrawn from the candidacy.

[unconstrained14u]

I am so OVER Wyclef!
He is continuously going back and forth with his comments on Lauryn.
He recently did an interview with Vibe magazine where he discusses Lauryn and the Fugees...here are his comments:


“Obviously, no one was paying attention to the credits on the Fugees’ The Score. It was hard to see who was the mastermind behind it because of Lauryn [Hill] being at the forefront of the group. But I planned it that way in the studio. That’s exactly how you heard it because I wanted the Fugees to be a supergroup. I wanted to make sure the music was ringing around the world. My whole goal was to get the hell up out of the projects and get my mom out of there. I’m thinking, ‘Yo, we have to hit the world stage!’

When the Fugees found success with The Score, people would be like, ‘Is Lauryn going to be on this song…is she coming to the show?’ But at the end of the day, there’s talkers and doers and there’s facts and opinions. If somebody was a mastermind in a group why can’t they keep doing what they do over and over again? How come they can’t do it with other artists? That’s how you know who was the producer of the group. So I don’t have to tell you who that was. You can figure it out yourself.

Look at every artist I worked with, Lauryn worked with and Pras worked with and you will be able to say, ‘Okay, that guy was the producer, that girl was the soul and that other guy was handling a lot of the business.’ That’s why I credit the Fugees with being a supergroup. But a few years later when I released The Carnival I threw a curveball. And that was good because the success of that album helped everybody. It even helped Lauryn. Remember when I talked about being the mastermind? What happened after The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill? There wasn’t a CD produced like that from her again.” www.vibe.com/content/true-studio-stories-wyclef-recalls-recording-fugees-lauryn-hill-and-making-carnival


I mean, I'm confused. I was always under the impression that it was the record company that urged the group to push Lauryn to the forefront because of the lack of success of their first album. To be completely honest, I think Wyclef is STILL BITTER that Lauryn was able to find success independent of him. Why else would he be trying to take credit for The Miseducation doing as well as it did??? How audacious! It really doesn't matter how many production credits he has or with which artists he has worked with because none of his work has seen or surpassed the level of success of The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill or The Score. Wyclef is a chronic NARCISSIST...I'm convinced. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to take anything away from what he has been able to accomplish because he has accomplished a lot....but 15yrs later, why are we still having this conversation?!?!? "Mastermind" or not, the only reason he got any shine to begin with was because of who?....*all together people*........LAURYN HILL!

....but I digress...I hope everyone is doing well this holiday season. ;D

[guest21]

Wyclef is full of s**t. He has an album to promote; therefore, he has to talk about Lauryn again. Did you notice the article has a second page.

The Carnival

“I wanted people to relate to the skits and stories on The Carnival. My true love is putting audio plays together. So I wanted The Carnival to feel like an epic play. I wanted to bring people back to when the world was one. The Carnival translated to my version of Westside Story. I wanted to bring an immigrant story to the masses through music. I wanted it to translate to Immigrants everywhere, whether you were in the ‘hood or in Cuba.

The real secret to The Carnival was the fact that my music is always honest to what’s going on at the time. I had a song called ‘To All The Girls,’ which was talking about the girls I cheated on. I was in between relationships at that time with my wife and Lauryn and I was not living in my house. I was in a small apartment on 66th street in Manhattan. I was smoking a lot of cigarettes stressed out with some red wine and bunch of vinyl in a tiny apartment. This is where the foundation for The Carnival started. Once I structured the album at my apartment, I took it out to the studio. But the studio is not what made the sound of The Carnival. When you hear a song like ‘Apocalypse’, that’s from a piece of vinyl from a French composer that I was playing one day. All of this was coming from my little apartment.

I knew that Carnival would shock people. The song that stands out the most to me is ‘Yele.’ That song always takes me back to when I met Stevie Wonder. He comes up to me saying the lyrics to ‘Yele’ in Creole…the whole song! He doesn’t just go into ‘Gone In November’ [laughs]. He tells me his favorite song is the most obscure record on the album. I recorded ‘Yele’ in 1997, but it talks about what’s happening in my country of Haiti today. If you go and translate this song in English you will see the earthquakes predicted. ‘Those with ears let them hear; those with eyes let them see…if not, the country is going to go under/10,000 coffins and they all are kids. The priests pray but no one will rise that day. Mom cries, but the deaf can’t hear.’

I never thought about if what I was doing was hip-hop. You have to understand where I’m from. I’m not from the suburbs. I’m not one of those kids that say let me do this hip-hop stuff so I can be accepted in the ‘hood. Because I’m from Marlboro Projects. I am hip-hop. I never had to prove anything. It’s a culture. If you notice, any group that said it was keeping it hip-hop and keeping it real, they are no longer here. Hip-hop is a way of living. And there are different forms of music within that. When I’m doing music I’m not thinking let me put myself in a rap box. Hendrix wasn’t accepted in Harlem. But when he went to England he was a God. He refused to be placed in a box. That’s the way you have to think.”

[pippip262]

Gosh I just don't know what to think about him anymore I talked to him on the phone once about a year ago and he seemed pretty nice but then again I didn't bring up Lauryn I thought that would've been rude. But anyways Idk y he's bringing up The Miseducation because if I'm correct I believe Lauryn denied his help on the album and Lauryn's produced great songs for HUGE stars such as Whitney Houston (when Whitney did the Stevie Wonder remake I was Made to Love Him) and of course A Rose Is Still A Rose for the one and only Aretha Franklin. Lauryn also did the video to A Rose very beautiful! Well I hope Wyclef will be able to be proud of himself he needs to focus on the future and forget the past stop trying to prove who did what it seems childish. Plus I don't think anyone believes him anyway. I know I don't!

[Moderator]

He believes that he has the recipe for success when it comes to The Fugees, which is his production work apparently. But deep down, he knows that without Lauryn, that album would have been just an ordinary record like his solo efforts. It's about time he realises it and moves on. The Fugees were good for what they were but everything comes to an end.

[sengun]

Ok this is a Fugees fan site for all 3 members. I just wanna ask you all a question. Do you REALLY want a Fugees record? If you reply yes, Is that because you really wanna hear Ms Hill sing / rap? Or because you want all 3 together? Personally I will be happy just to have a solo record. I didn't like the songs they produced back in 2005, they were commercial and just not very Ms Hill in my opinion. I enjoyed the new material she performed solo on the 2005 europe tour, like Had to Walk etc... I also think the Miseducation is a much stronger album than The Score. What do you think?

[Martin00]

I am a huge fan of 'The Score' and a fan of what the group was then - in terms of the chemistry they had and how they were all on the same page. Needless to say, immense and immediate success changes people drastically and you can tell that the chemistry is different now with the three of them. This definitely showed in their music and their live performances in their 2005 reunion.
For me it just didn't feel like a group effort, more like 3 individuals who happened to be on stage at the same time. From what I've seen and heard from the reviews and videos posted, Lauryn seemed pretty detached from the other two, showing very little interaction with the guys. Pras would always be staying in the back with the band and Wyclef would try really hard to keep the crowd hyped and the show moving by himself. With Lauryn having gone through what she had, and still struggling with a lot of the anger she felt with the people around her at the time (like her statement about the Fugees being a conspiracy to control in the Essence issue she was featured in with the guys), I can imagine it wasn't easy for them and I'm sure there are still a lot of unresolved tension, as evident in Wyclef's childish and idiotic statements he recently made and appears to keep making.

All of this just amounts to me wanting a Lauryn album all the more. One reason being a fan of Lauryn first and foremost and missing her gift of music, the other purely based upon the new music the Fugees have released as a group. The three songs they put out in 2005 felt empty to me content wise, and the production sounded really rushed. The soul wasn't there and I just didn't get that feeling I get when I listen to Lauryn. Who knows though, they may be able to work things out in the future, develop a proper group dynamic and come out with an amazing album with musical depth. But for now, I'm definitely looking forward to a new Lauryn record more.

[guest21]

New interview with Wyclef talks about Fugees/Lauryn and why the group split. The man has no shortage of EGO thats for sure.



Picture of Fugees @ 7:03 and Discussion starts on Fugees at 10:18.

[pippip262]

I don't particularly dislike Wyclef but I don't like how he side disses Lauryn. It's not right! He's really being an @$$ hole. I wouldn't mind a Fugees record because I actually liked Take It Easy (Lauryn's rap was very intelligent) you just have to keep up with her because it goes so fast. Even with the beat she uses her bars to inform
don't you know originals get plagarized, majors minors, must supervise
Haters, Climbers get scrutinized, Placaters, Blind and stupid guys
Wicked people choose homicide, Dregs of society heathen dem
Beggars, bogus misleading dem, Nigra, Negro, Negrito dem
Angelitos con libre dem, Chicos, Chicas completing them
Addiction, fiction, bleeding them, capitalism eating them,
Misunderstanding cheatin them, The ignorance defeating them
True loyalty is leaving them, got royalty believing them
Eyes open deceiving them, Reconciling, Receiving them
Reckless driving and we're leaving them, Matthew Andrew and Peter them

[Puma]

What's funny is: I want Wyclef to keep embarrassing himself in the media because the first time he did it to Lauryn, we got "Lost Ones."
I want him to basically piss her off enough that she gets motivated to come out with another diss record or something amazing.

[pippip262]

I don't want that to happen because I want her to be happy not upset and mad all the time. I hope she's so over him that she doesn't get effected by the crap he says anymore. A song would be nice but why wish her in the position again?

[Puma]

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I don't want that to happen because I want her to be happy not upset and mad all the time.

That's just a basic part of life. I don't want her to be depressed and over the music business like she was after The Unplugged album BUT this bravado and ignorant quotes constantly forced in the media by Wyclef has to affect her somehow. Once again, she's on the humble and he's on every station. I would rather her use those feelings, like she always does, and channel it into her music to give us another masterpiece. When she did it on Miseducation, it was more cathartic and she came out the bigger person. I would never wish her to be depressed but she makes the best records when she pours her true feelings out in music.

[mountzion]

This nucca is a fool!
First he says Laueyn had nonidea if he or Rohan was the daddy....THEN he says Lauryn wanted him to be the father, NOW he is saying she lied to him and told him it was his!

Wow dude, really?

Not saying Lairyn is innocent, I don't know, but Wyclef looks real suspect....with a damn book on the way!
And when is it appropriate to keep pitting your damned EX out there like that! Ugh. No class.

[iftheyonlyknewlove]

Wait is Wyclef writting a book that is going to bash Lauryn? He makes me so sick, this guy is still very bitter. His bully tactics are not going to help the relationship between him and Lauryn, and he is going to have to stop dishing out his and Lauryn's business. I mean for god sakes is a mother of six.